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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 20 May 2007
Various big media television networks ^ | 20 May 2007 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 05/20/2007 5:26:04 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, May 20th, 2007

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; former Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor; Paul Hays, former House reading clerk.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., presidential candidate; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich; Douglas Brinkley, editor of President Ronald Reagan's diaries; Michael Deaver, Reagan's deputy chief of staff; Ed Meese, Reagan's attorney general.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., and Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; military historian Fred Kagan; retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton.

THIS WEEK (ABC): House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.; Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.; talk show host Rachael Ray.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff; Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez; Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Mel Martinez, R-Fla.; Rep. Brian Bilbray, R-Calif.; Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, presidential candidate; Shibley Telhami of the Brookings Institution; Vali Nasr of the Council on Foreign Relations.


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To: mathluv

I don’t recall any of them saying it does or doesn’t matter- but I wouldn’t be surprised if McCain did say so!

My point was- no matter what the world thinks of us- if this bill passes- our country will be profoundly changed.


201 posted on 05/20/2007 7:59:23 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: Carolinamom

That could be it .. he does let his guard down around them


202 posted on 05/20/2007 8:00:41 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: olde north church
"Two Free Felonies Act of 2007". You know, cross the border illegally, then commit identity theft. I believe this could change courtroom behavior forever.

Great sound bite for ALL...rather than just Conservatives amongst themselves. Well done.

203 posted on 05/20/2007 8:01:35 AM PDT by NordP (The greatest gift God can give us is LIFE. The greatest gift man can give to another is FREEDOM.)
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To: ThreePuttinDude

Tom Delay was not kind to Newt in his book. He said he had great ideas but was too disorganized.


204 posted on 05/20/2007 8:03:05 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: mathluv
Do you really think a dim pres, or a continued dim congress will do better?

Again, and as usual, the straw man.

It doesn't matter whether they would or wouldn't "do better". Because Republican Senators and a Republican President are doing it, right now.

You guys love to throw out these red herrings and straw men and scary stories, when the reality right in front of your eyes is that it is Republicans who are betraying us, the party, the nation, and the rule of law, right here and now.

No? Don't the Republicans have 41 seats in the Senate? Can't they filibuster, at least until there has been time to understand and explain what hidden traps and costs are in thsi bill (aside from the obvious ones)? Doesn't Jorge Bush have a veto pen?

You seem perfectly willing to accept a Republican Party which is packed with the most egregious liars and whimps, and your only retort is "Well, they're better than Democrats."

Sorry, that's not good enough.

And at this stage and given the enormity of the damage that is about to be done - literally the generational destruction of America - I'm not sure that the Republicans are less or more despicable than the Democrats.

205 posted on 05/20/2007 8:03:26 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Bahbah
Newt did a superb job. Using our own Revolutionary War was the perfect example since it took from 1776 to 1789 to seat Washington. We did have the OLD government in force and there were many Loyalists including Washington's mother and George's biggest promoter, Lord Fairfax.

When Fairfax heard about the defeat at Yorktown, he exclaimed: "My God, what have I done.

So we had a civil war going on at the same time.

Oh, yeah...It was years before the Bill of Rights was added to the Constitution. (The existing states had their own which are the basis for the Federal Bill of Rights.)

206 posted on 05/20/2007 8:04:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: SE Mom

I agree that the bill would be disastorous for our country as we know it. One of the debaters was trying to say that how the world sees us should not be #1, but the defense of our country should be #1.


207 posted on 05/20/2007 8:05:05 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: Carolinamom
That 's very true. Kerry and Gingrich Hugging Trees recently.
208 posted on 05/20/2007 8:06:32 AM PDT by anita
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To: Sacajaweau

While Congress is rushing to “fix” immigration, the Social Security time bomb is ticking and will explode if this bill passes unvetted.


209 posted on 05/20/2007 8:07:35 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: angkor

No, what I am saying is that it is during the PRIMARIES that we try to get rid of the RINOs. I am not throwing out red herrings, straw men, or scary stories. If republicans are betraying us, get them out in the primaries.


210 posted on 05/20/2007 8:07:43 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: mathluv
Perhaps THAT is the reason for the Canada-USA-Mexico crap. I always like to look at the why/motivation vs. the what/action taken.

That said, I just cannot think why, or what would motivate the Pres to back such nonsense. He's a good man, with a good heart, who loves his Country, and truly wants to make it better. Perhaps the D.C. bubble is affecting him too much--perhaps it was a premise to his getting elected by the background powers that be....I just don't get it. (This is NOT a "solicit bash Bush reasons" request.)

211 posted on 05/20/2007 8:08:23 AM PDT by NordP (The greatest gift God can give us is LIFE. The greatest gift man can give to another is FREEDOM.)
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To: mathluv
Do you really think a dim pres, or a continued dim congress will do better?

They KNOW better but for the 100%ers this is another case where the below comes into play in US politics. All they care about is that their particular emotional hot button be pushed. It the "politcs as sport" mentality that has taken over too much of the political discourse in this country, For them to "win", anyone who disagrees even .5% with their dogma must "lose". It one of the more sorry aspects of US politics is how often things are done because of the egos of the players rather then the best interests of the country.

212 posted on 05/20/2007 8:08:27 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: gpapa
Here in California immigrants, legal and illegal, have taken over entire classes of work, including food services, dry wall workers, all manual labor construction jobs, landscaping work, pipe laying, brick masons and others, depressing overall wages in the process.

Michael Barone has written an interesting article, DEMOGRAPHY IS DESTINY: The Realignment of America--The native-born are leaving "hip" cities for the heartland. This is what he said about California:

"Start with the Coastal Megalopolises: New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, Chicago (on the coast of Lake Michigan), Miami, Washington and Boston. Here is a pattern you don't find in other big cities: Americans moving out and immigrants moving in, in very large numbers, with low overall population growth. Los Angeles, defined by the Census Bureau as Los Angeles and Orange Counties, had a domestic outflow of 6% of 2000 population in six years--balanced by an immigrant inflow of 6%. The numbers are the same for these eight metro areas as a whole.

There are some variations. New York had a domestic outflow of 8% and an immigrant inflow of 6%; San Francisco a whopping domestic outflow of 10% (the bursting of the tech bubble hurt) and an immigrant inflow of 7%. Miami and Washington had domestic outflows of only 2%, overshadowed by immigrant inflows of 8% and 5%, respectively."

This is something few would have predicted 20 years ago. Americans are now moving out of, not into, coastal California and South Florida, and in very large numbers they're moving out of our largest metro areas. They're fleeing hip Boston and San Francisco, and after eight decades of moving to Washington they're moving out. The domestic outflow from these metro areas is 3.9 million people, 650,000 a year. High housing costs, high taxes, a distaste in some cases for the burgeoning immigrant populations--these are driving many Americans elsewhere.

The result is that these Coastal Megalopolises are increasingly a two-tiered society, with large affluent populations happily contemplating (at least until recently) their rapidly rising housing values, and a large, mostly immigrant working class working at low wages and struggling to move up the economic ladder. The economic divide in New York and Los Angeles is starting to look like the economic divide in Mexico City and São Paulo.

Democratic politicians like to decry what they describe as a widening economic gap in the nation. But the part of the nation where it is widening most visibly is their home turf, the place where they win their biggest margins (these metro areas voted 61% for John Kerry) and where, in exquisitely decorated Park Avenue apartments and Beverly Hills mansions with immigrant servants passing the hors d'oeuvres, they raise most of their money.

The bad news for them is that the Coastal Megalopolises grew only 4% in 2000-06, while the nation grew 6%. Coastal Megalopolitan states--New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Illinois--are projected to lose five House seats in the 2010 Census, while California, which has gained seats in every census since it was admitted to the Union in 1850, is projected to pick up none."

Non-Hispanic whites are fleeing California in huge numbers. They are being replace by immigrants, legal and illegal. One in four residents of California is foreign born.

213 posted on 05/20/2007 8:09:01 AM PDT by kabar
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To: anita

I watched and listened to that Kerry/Gingrich love fest “debate”.


214 posted on 05/20/2007 8:09:40 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: NordP
I think that what W knows is so much more than what WE know, and I try to consider that.

His fights seem to be behind the scene fights. I think some of us want them to be more public.

215 posted on 05/20/2007 8:11:49 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: Carolinamom

Yah...I was thinking THAT was a motivator, too. Get money in coffers quick...ends justify the means type thing. So typical of liberals...short-sighted, self-centered, and impatient (among many other negatives).


216 posted on 05/20/2007 8:11:59 AM PDT by NordP (The greatest gift God can give us is LIFE. The greatest gift man can give to another is FREEDOM.)
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To: kabar

California and other states would lose Representatives if we stopped counting illegal aliens in the census the way we do now.


218 posted on 05/20/2007 8:12:27 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: Alas Babylon!

Wow Newt hit a grand slam today


219 posted on 05/20/2007 8:13:12 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (John Bolton 08!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Those who want to fight in the general election rather than in the primaries really scare me for the future of our country.


220 posted on 05/20/2007 8:13:20 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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