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Poisoned Toothpaste Possibly from China
THE REGISTER GUARD ^ | Saturday, May 19, 2007 | By Walt Bogdanich and Renwick McLean

Posted on 05/19/2007 6:35:37 PM PDT by JACKRUSSELL

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To: snowsislander
We should cease all normal trade relations with Red China.

It's now clearly a matter of our health, in addition to the fact that is also simply wiser to stop making a totalitarian state wealthier. It certainly makes no sense to enrich a totalitarian state that is also willing to poison its customers.

We have no need from any food or other consumable product from Red China, no matter how cheaply it is priced; let them rot in their own poisoned system.


Agreed. I always thought it was a mistake for Nixon to go to Red China, then again, I'm judging the world of 1971/72 by the fallout from it that we saw in the 1990's up to now. I find it revolting that we are getting foodstuffs for us and our pets from Red China. I've heard of tragedies of families losing 4 or 5 cats (or dogs) to the recent scare due to renal failure. I know myself, I thank God none of my 6 cats are affected (although my 18 year old cat, Corky, she does have a little bit of kidney failure, which is treatable as of now, probably due to het diabeties)we don't use those foods at all but many do. I try my best to avoid Red Cinese stuff although there are times I cannot so I try to keep it to a bare minimum as possible.
61 posted on 05/19/2007 10:48:50 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Paint me something patriotic, like, The Confederate Flag!" - Wolf, from "Blackboard Jumble")
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To: JACKRUSSELL

Nothing here. Nothing to see.

Just the NWO folks advancing their efforts to reduce the global population to 500,000,000

Nothing here. Nothing to see. Move along. Sing Kumbya as you go. Hug, if you must.


62 posted on 05/20/2007 3:53:16 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: stinkerpot65
"Makes me wonder about “Equate” brand at Walmart."

It does, doesn't it? I use the Equate brand of Advil and the 81 mg aspirin for my husband, and also of Polident. But we don't know for sure that the actual brands aren't coming from China. And if we substitute baking soda for toothpaste, how do we know where the baking soda came from? What a mess!

Carolyn

63 posted on 05/20/2007 4:24:21 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: Zhang Fei

I beg to differ, Communist China is one big labor camp.


64 posted on 05/20/2007 5:01:44 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Flavius
i am actually going to make very good friends with my Amish neighbors

We already do. We have a very large community of them here and they have a little community market with the BEST vegetable. Both of my Jack Russell Terrorists came from there too. :-)

65 posted on 05/20/2007 5:42:48 AM PDT by Melinda in TN
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To: JACKRUSSELL

Thank you for the article.

This has been all over the local newspapers of course. I am glad to see this news is getting coverage in the United States.

I have always used Colgate.


66 posted on 05/20/2007 5:50:00 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: JACKRUSSELL

Sure glad I use baking soda and salt for toothpaste.


67 posted on 05/20/2007 5:51:34 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) 9/11: Many of us REFUSE to Forget!!)
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To: JACKRUSSELL

It seems to be a trend that the recipes China has ‘borrowed’ from other countries are not being translated correctly. Geesh.... pet food... toothpaste.. Note to China- do not use poison in people or pet items. It is bad.


68 posted on 05/20/2007 5:54:49 AM PDT by Cate (Thank God for the USA and our troops!)
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To: ya_hew
Baking soda can be used as toothpaste.

Where does IT come from these days? Blackbird.

69 posted on 05/20/2007 7:07:53 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, another day dawns!)
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To: Tarpon
...but who is the genius that thought up the idea of importing stuff from Communist countries that you put in your mouth.

THAT would be our very own FRee to be TRAITORS! Should you ever attempt to converse with ANY of them, they'll be quick to let you know what genius they possess. Heck, one of them told me I'm not worth what I'm being paid, knowing NOTHING of me or what I do for a living nor what I'm paid. They're regular legends in their own minds. Blackbird.

70 posted on 05/20/2007 7:17:11 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, another day dawns!)
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To: Tarpon
I beg to differ, Communist China is one big labor camp.

In China, the days of working for ration coupons and room and board are long gone - along with most elements of communism as a way of organizing the economy. This is why China's economy has advanced so rapidly - unfettered competition in a lot of areas. However, it is still very poor, which is why US exports to China are pretty low, relative to US imports from China.

Nonetheless, China's economy is much more open than Japan's was at this stage in its development. This is why China's imported $56b from the US in 2006, whereas Japan imported $59b. It is also why big name American brands like McDonald's have a huge presence in China, with 800 stores in place and hundreds more on the way. The fact is that China is now the biggest or second biggest Asian market for a lot of American products. It will remain this way only if it is allowed to grow. Across the board trade sanctions will lead to problems for (1) American exporters, who will see slower demand for US goods due to a slower Chinese economy, (2) American corporations manufacturing in China and selling in the Chinese market, who will see slower sales from a weaker Chinese economy (Procter & Gamble, Kraft, Colgate, Avon, American Standard - you name it - it's there), (3) American manufacturers, who will have to seek out lower cost locales for their plants, and perhaps split production between plants in China for non-US markets and plants in Indonesia for the US market, and (4) US consumers, who will see higher prices across the board, leading perhaps to interest rate increases, due to higher inflation.

By the way, if you think China is one massive slave labor camp, perhaps because of the low wages, what would be your take on India and Africa, which have lower per capita wages, because their economies are less free than China's, leading to relatively slower growth?

71 posted on 05/20/2007 7:20:59 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: James W. Fannin
You do realize that many Congressmen,and certainly the Bush family, have extensive investments in China. Sen. Diane Feinstein does, so much so, that she went on national television crying and kowtowing to the Chinese after they shot down one of our surveillance planes that was flying over international waters and captured it and the crew. They have NO allegiance to the US when the majority of their investments are in foreign countries.
72 posted on 05/20/2007 8:06:46 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
They have NO allegiance to the US when the majority of their investments are in foreign countries.

Bears repeating. Thank you for reminding us.

73 posted on 05/20/2007 8:08:04 AM PDT by James W. Fannin (unappeasable)
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To: Zhang Fei; TigerLikesRooster
Nonetheless, China's economy is much more open than Japan's was at this stage in its development.

Why don't you join the Fred Thompson campaign?

74 posted on 05/20/2007 8:09:00 AM PDT by James W. Fannin (unappeasable)
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To: hedgetrimmer

No deadheads on these Chinese poison imorts threads. They must be all out checking their toothpaste labels. ...snicker...


75 posted on 05/20/2007 8:34:30 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

Yeah, its weird isn’t it?


76 posted on 05/20/2007 9:51:42 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Zhang Fei
It will remain this way only if it is allowed to grow. Across the board trade sanctions will lead to problems for (1) American exporters, who will see slower demand for US goods due to a slower Chinese economy, (2) American corporations manufacturing in China and selling in the Chinese market, who will see slower sales from a weaker Chinese economy (Procter & Gamble, Kraft, Colgate, Avon, American Standard - you name it - it's there)

American companies will only sell in China until the Chinese have completed stealing their trade secrets and have set up Chinese companies making the same thing for the Chinese market. It will be very profitable for the current crop of CEOs, who will have retired on their fat bonuses and stock options before the troubles are seen

77 posted on 05/20/2007 11:50:16 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLJz3N8ayI">Open Season</a> rocks)
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American companies will only sell in China until the Chinese have completed stealing their trade secrets and have set up Chinese companies making the same thing for the Chinese market.

McDonald's doesn't have any trade secrets, any more than Burger King has trade secrets. Any McDonald's corporate manager can tell you how McDonald's operates. But there is ony one McDonald's - in the sense of an industry-dominating company - and everyone else is an also-ran. People don't buy Procter and Gamble Products (Crest, Wisk, etc) because of any secret formulas. They buy 'em because of a combination of slick marketing that convinces Chinese consumers that the product is right for them and a reputation for quality and reliability. The fact is that the primary foreign products on Chinese store shelves are American brand names and not European or Japanese brand names because American brand names have a reputation in China for quality. This is why GM sold 877,000 cars in China in 2006. That was 70% of GM's East Asian sales. In other words, GM sold more cars in China than the rest of East Asia put together.

There is also a cachet associated with buying foreign products in general and American products in particular - the main problem for the average Chinese isn't that he doesn't like US products - it's that he can't afford them, apart from soaps and shampoos and cell phones. And yet, despite the fact that American products are considered luxury goods in China, it imported $56b of American goods in 2006 - just $3b less than Japan.

As China grows wealthier, the amount of US exports to China is bound to increase. Why? For the same reason that US exports to Japan have increased. The Japanese have copied every major American innovation and continue to do so, but they have become a major US export market in the process. As Japanese wages increased from a tiny fraction of US wages to 2/3 American wages, Japanese buying power increased and the price differentials for Japanese consumers between Made in Japan and Made in USA products practically vanished.

Something similar is happening in China today, and it would be a shame to derail it. In fact, the Chinese market has surpassed Japan's for many US companies. GM's 877,000 sales figure for China dwarfs the 383,000 sales figure for the rest of East Asia. Back in the mid-90's, the Chinese market was a nonentity for US products.

Here's a pop quiz from 1997, which figure grew faster - US exports to China or Chinese exports to the US? The correct figure is US exports to China, which grew 18% per year compared to Chinese exports to the US which grew 16% a year. In fact, US exports to China in 2006 are skyrocketing (34% increase from 2005) at a time when Chinese exports to the US are leveling off (18% increase from 2005).

78 posted on 05/20/2007 6:01:39 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: ya_hew

This ethylene (or diethylene) glycol is referred to as “glycol” in many children’s products, including cough syrup, etc.

It’s ANTI-FREEZE!


79 posted on 05/20/2007 6:42:21 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: JACKRUSSELL
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Nothing is going to happen, until Chinese economy crashes. Then all these "business leaders" and politicians would suddenly find out how bad China has been, after shock-wave from popping bubble nearly cut their heads off.

It has been this way for long time and why should we believe that we are any different? They always believe, "This time it is really different," the words which are lovely music to Devil's ears. No sweeter words have been spoken to Devil by mortals.

80 posted on 05/20/2007 7:11:36 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, kae jong-il, chia head, ppogri, midget sh*tbag)
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