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1 posted on 05/19/2007 3:54:48 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble

BS. This is just more of the nonsense made up BS from the rabid Bush haters. The provision for back taxes is IN the bill. This bill is a terrible and should be defeated but the rabid Bush haters do NOT help matters when they manufacture LIES about the bill.


2 posted on 05/19/2007 3:56:45 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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If true, El Presidente is to the LEFT of Kennedy.


3 posted on 05/19/2007 3:57:50 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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“Administration officials said many illegal immigrants do not get paychecks that can be audited, making it difficult to determine tax liability.”

And yet they are sure that there are 12 million. I am done with taxes. You pay for them, Jorge.


4 posted on 05/19/2007 3:59:15 AM PDT by mirkwood (I started out with nothing and still have most of it left.)
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This is just insane.

America is a shining jewel to be held aloft to the world as an example of freedom, liberty, prosperity and goodness, NOT to be made common with the rest of the world to be raped and pillaged by globalists.

Extreme anger - words fail me.

6 posted on 05/19/2007 4:00:09 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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Have your Driver licence revoked? Call 1-800-SENATE
Criminal Record? Call 1-800-SENATE
Owe back child support? Call 1-800-SENATE
Being their making everything else legal.


7 posted on 05/19/2007 4:00:33 AM PDT by Son House ( Democrats are Hostile to Tax Payers.)
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yay Bush. good ol W. whoopee.


8 posted on 05/19/2007 4:01:00 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Democrats:more miserable than Donald Trump being forced to watch Rosie O’Donnell River Dance naked.)
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Will they do the same for Americans? Isn’t that discrimination? Does anyone in the gov. care?


10 posted on 05/19/2007 4:01:19 AM PDT by patj
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Does each illegal immigrant also get 10 acres and a mule?


12 posted on 05/19/2007 4:08:08 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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Why is Bush so in love with illegal immigrants? Did they work for him or something in the past? He doesn't know it yet, but he is taking a nosedirive right into a disastorous outcome.

It pains me, but I can no longer support this President, because obviously cares nothing about what the majority of his party and Amercians are telling him.

17 posted on 05/19/2007 4:15:09 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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I love the phrase "difficult to determine tax liability" with respect to illegals.

.....like it's EASY FOR THE REST OF US to determine OUR tax liability?

Isn't it 67,000 pages of IRS tax code now?

"Difficulty" has never been an allowable excuse for law abiding U.S. citizens with respect to determining our tax liability and filing our returns.

Oh, if only our nation's capitol would break off and fall into the sea! Our government has become a hateful, stinking pile of corruption.

Criminals have taken over the country.

18 posted on 05/19/2007 4:17:15 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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I finally understand the true genius of Karl Rove. He and W really constitute a liberal sleeper cell whose mission is to destroy the GOP. How else to explain all of the long-term disasters they have visited on the party, from the education bill to the prescription drug bill to this. These programs will be a drag on the country long after W is cannoned off the planet.

Meanwhile, the positive things they did—i.e., the tax cuts—are ephemeral at best (the one exception here is the Supreme court appointments, but even these would have been mediocre if a party rebellion hadn't forced them to reconsider Miers). One has to also assume the liberals have been in on it from the start. Rove, you magnificent bastard!Or, just, you bastard!

25 posted on 05/19/2007 4:33:36 AM PDT by Jagman (I drank Frank Rabelais under the table!)
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"Chertoff thought it would be too challenging to accurately determine the amount of an applicant's back taxes," she said.

So, now we know the Department of Homeland Security is mathematically challenged. That explains why they used colors instead of numbers in the terrorism threat advisory scale.

Is our country great, or what? What other nation provides its village idiots with high ranking government jobs?

27 posted on 05/19/2007 4:36:16 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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lol. The hits keep on coming.


28 posted on 05/19/2007 4:36:36 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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Administration officials said many illegal immigrants do not get paychecks that can be audited, making it difficult to determine tax liability.

Must be the word "estimated" does not exist in the vocabulary of government employees. Hmmmmm, in that case, why are some of us paying estimated quarterlies???

30 posted on 05/19/2007 4:39:16 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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This is probably the best part of the bill. The majority of low wage workers would be eligible for EIC. That would cost us dearly.


34 posted on 05/19/2007 4:44:03 AM PDT by Glenn (Someone in '08!)
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If they want to be American Citizens, they should not be allowed to get tax breaks right away. In fact, each one of them should be required to sit at a kitchen table with a pencil, calculator, and a book of instructions and forms to complete their back taxes. (In English only)

If they get it right, they can stay. If they get anything on the tax return wrong, they should be immediately ejected and never allowed back in the United States.

And I hope they all have to file the AMT form and pay the tax.

36 posted on 05/19/2007 4:48:58 AM PDT by Bernard (The price used to be 30 pieces of silver; now it's a spinach subsidy.)
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There's an element to this process that has been referenced somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but in reality, may be quite attractive.

I speak, of course, about citizens filing their own amnesty applications.

Here's the point: illegals by definition have no truly proper form of identity. (Forget matriculas, drivers licenses, etc - these were all issued on non-binding IDs as well.)

That means any starting point will require some sort of tracking ID to be assigned by ICE. What's to stop me from filing an application under whatever name I wish to get an ID? Then, as I go through the process, how is ICE going to determine that I'm actually an existing citizen? (That is, if they don't have my fingerprints on file anywhere ie I've never been arrested, etc?)

I'm not being facetious; how is ICE going to prevent citizens from getting whole new parallel identities?

37 posted on 05/19/2007 4:50:21 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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Bush who? He “was” once our President....


39 posted on 05/19/2007 4:54:05 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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the administration called for the provision to be removed due to concern that it would be too difficult to figure out which illegal immigrants owed back taxes...

Oh, they'll get that money. They'll use the AHH system of estimation. You know, arbitrary and high-handed. Positively no need for accuracy. Pay what we tell you, or go to jail. Works for everybody else!

42 posted on 05/19/2007 4:59:58 AM PDT by Graymatter (FREDeralist)
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President Bush and the democrats are trying to bring in an amnesty program that will effectively destroy America’s sovereignty and destroy our economy. Worst of all, I believe they know it but are arrogant and foolish and self deceived idiots.


49 posted on 05/19/2007 5:13:08 AM PDT by kindred (The Pubs have joined with the dems and are destroying America.)
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