Posted on 05/19/2007 3:54:46 AM PDT by Jim Noble
The Bush administration insisted on a little-noticed change in the bipartisan Senate immigration bill that would enable 12 million undocumented residents to avoid paying back taxes or associated fines to the Internal Revenue Service, officials said.
An independent analyst estimated the decision could cost the IRS tens of billions of dollars.
A provision requiring payment of back taxes had been in the initial version of a bill proposed by Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat. But the administration called for the provision to be removed due to concern that it would be too difficult to figure out which illegal immigrants owed back taxes...
"It is important that the reformed immigration system is workable and cost efficient," Stanzel said. "Determining the past tax liability would have been very difficult and costly and extremely time consuming."...
Laura Capps, a spokeswoman for Kennedy, said a provision for requiring back taxes was in Kennedy's original bill and that Chertoff called for it to be removed. "Chertoff thought it would be too challenging to accurately determine the amount of an applicant's back taxes," she said.
Administration officials said many illegal immigrants do not get paychecks that can be audited, making it difficult to determine tax liability.
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Confusing the unworthy American people furuther on what BS nonsense is in or out of this BS-give-the-country-away-screw-the-American-citizen bill is part and parcel of the traitors who are jamming it down our throats. We're going to argue about the way the chairs are set up on the Titanic? BTW, how do you know what's in the bill since the rest of us are kept in the dark?
The dropping of the back-tax provision was not made clear in the announcement of the immigration reform proposal on Thursday. Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff, speaking in reference to illegal immigrants seeking legal status, said, "You've got to pay your taxes." He did not state whether he was referring to back taxes, future taxes, or both.White House spokesman Scott Stanzel, asked in a telephone interview yesterday to clarify Chertoff's remark, said it referred only to future taxes.
"It is important that the reformed immigration system is workable and cost efficient," Stanzel said. "Determining the past tax liability would have been very difficult and costly and extremely time consuming."
Oops. The cat's out of the bag...
That any poor or unfortunate countryman of ours has to go through hoops, hire expensive advocates, wait for years, and then maybe not get these benefits anyway while Jose who is openly breaking the law has our government chasing him to give him benefits is astounding, and disgraceful.
And of course it is the end of Medicaid, which may have been Kennedy's purpose all along.
State Medicaid programs which are barely viable now will be crushed under the weight of thirty million (if not more) new nontaxpaying clients.
Oh well. At least there won't be any gay marriages in Ohio.
Meanwhile, the positive things they didi.e., the tax cutsare ephemeral at best (the one exception here is the Supreme court appointments, but even these would have been mediocre if a party rebellion hadn't forced them to reconsider Miers). One has to also assume the liberals have been in on it from the start. Rove, you magnificent bastard!Or, just, you bastard!
El Presidente: "Bring everyone you know.
We will give you free education, homes,
medical care, and you won't have to pay taxes
or even get a license to drive or practice medicine."
So, now we know the Department of Homeland Security is mathematically challenged. That explains why they used colors instead of numbers in the terrorism threat advisory scale.
Is our country great, or what? What other nation provides its village idiots with high ranking government jobs?
lol. The hits keep on coming.
Im done with the GOP and I think Bush is the worst President in history. First he said Putin was a good man. I forgave him for that ( KGB). He could have contained Saddam , I backed him even today for that mistake. But now this he is a disaster.
Must be the word "estimated" does not exist in the vocabulary of government employees. Hmmmmm, in that case, why are some of us paying estimated quarterlies???
Converting the millions of illegal aliens to legal citizenship should be a top priority, and the provision for a $5,000 fine is an adequate penalty. The collection of future taxes will be more important than the net revenue after collection expenses of back taxes. But if the border door isn’t slammed shut to more illegals, it will all be meaningless. Our Congressmorons have failed miseraby by allowing this invasion of the United States to continue. As the Republicans continue to abandon Ronald Reagan and the Constitution, they smell more like Democrats, who are socialist traitors.
Have you seen the bill?
Has anyone seen the bill?
I'm inclined to believe the Globe on this, since there's been a lot of talk about the $5,000 fine, and absolutely no talk about back taxes in this amnesty version.
That's a clue.
If true, it's not surprising that Chertoff would object; he's admitting that many of these people (contrary to the "hardworking, taxpaying immigrant" rhetoric) have either been paid under the table, or are using a bogus SS#. Does that mean the IRS will back off the poor unfortunates who've had their identities stolen and are hounded for back taxes on these illegals' income? I woouldn't bet on it. The IRS will forego millions in illegal immigrant back taxes, but they'll hound honest victims of illegal fraud to bankruptcy.
Sorta makes you feel like Bruce Willis in the Sixth Sense : you're dead, you just don't realize it...
This is probably the best part of the bill. The majority of low wage workers would be eligible for EIC. That would cost us dearly.
Sure. For the DEMOCRATS.
NOT for REPUBLICANS.
Christ, '86 Amnesty is still paying dividends for the 'Rats via the ballot box.
I guess the GOP really does want to got the way of the Whigs.
If they get it right, they can stay. If they get anything on the tax return wrong, they should be immediately ejected and never allowed back in the United States.
And I hope they all have to file the AMT form and pay the tax.
I speak, of course, about citizens filing their own amnesty applications.
Here's the point: illegals by definition have no truly proper form of identity. (Forget matriculas, drivers licenses, etc - these were all issued on non-binding IDs as well.)
That means any starting point will require some sort of tracking ID to be assigned by ICE. What's to stop me from filing an application under whatever name I wish to get an ID? Then, as I go through the process, how is ICE going to determine that I'm actually an existing citizen? (That is, if they don't have my fingerprints on file anywhere ie I've never been arrested, etc?)
I'm not being facetious; how is ICE going to prevent citizens from getting whole new parallel identities?
You don’t know what’s in the bill. If you’re saying you know, then you’re either a liar or a Senate Staff lawyer.
Bush who? He “was” once our President....
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