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New Zealand Weatherman on Global Warming: 'It's All Going to be a Joke in 5 Years'
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Posted on 05/18/2007 12:20:32 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Dinsdale
The trend in increased CO2 has no credible explanation besides human activity.That's not true. Natural warming warms the oceans and a warmed ocean holds less CO2, just like a warmer soda is fizzier than a cold one because it holds less CO2.
Natural warming -> warmer oceans -> oceans release CO2 -> trend in increased CO2.
That's a credible explanation that does not involve human activity.
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:09:03 PM PDT
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: TUAN_JIM
What was the trend in CO2 levels prior to the industrial revolution?
What else has changed to account for the change in the trend?
Mankind has increased the CO2 levels. But it's not a problem.
When the facts support your position you hurt your argument by making up numbers as this guy did.
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:10:14 PM PDT
by
Dinsdale
To: Old Professer
Humans do the measuring; some of them have motives. You nailed it!! That's a keeper.
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:12:02 PM PDT
by
sand88
(q)
To: Old Professer
Humans do the measuring; some of them have motives. Peer review works. Has for centuries.
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:12:19 PM PDT
by
Dinsdale
To: Dinsdale
The trend in increased CO2 has no credible explanation besides human activity. It doesn't?
Every living thing from Whales to termites contribute; volume-wise, termites outnumber humans by orders of magnitude.
Volcanic activity is not nothing.
Are you serious?
No credible explanation?
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:12:33 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I remember the Ozone Layer Theory. What happened to it? We don’t hear about it anymore?
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:12:39 PM PDT
by
MinorityRepublican
(Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
To: Publius6961
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:12:43 PM PDT
by
Old Professer
(The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
To: Red Badger
Need any 7 year old Spam? ;~))
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:14:14 PM PDT
by
Ditto
(Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
To: Dinsdale
Tell it to Bruce Ames; when peer review becomes peer ostracizing, it is career-ruining.
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:15:05 PM PDT
by
Old Professer
(The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
To: Publius6961
By the way, the 1950 figure is arbitrary and meaningless. Support your claim, it was independently measured by many scientists world wide prior to global warming being a concern.
BTW we have much longer baseline data from ice cores (again validated by multiple researchers). There is a clear trend starting at the industrial revolution.
That doesn't make it a problem. Fudging data is what the other side does, we don't need to.
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:16:32 PM PDT
by
Dinsdale
To: Sub-Driver
Hey! They rode GW to the tune of 4 to 5 billion dollars a year in grant and research money.
Not too shabby. The Mafia is taking notes.
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:18:03 PM PDT
by
listenhillary
(Democrats are sacrificing civilization for political power)
To: Dinsdale
BTW 3.2% compounded over 20 years would be an increase of 87%. Far more then the actual case. It's not a closed system. Oceans absord much of the increase in CO2.
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:19:55 PM PDT
by
TUAN_JIM
(Sic Semper Tyrannis)
To: Old Professer
You mean the Burce Ames that won the National Medal of Science in 1998 and the Thomas Hunt Morgan Medal in 2004?
Doesn't sound all that carrier ending to me.
I repeat peer review works.
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:21:14 PM PDT
by
Dinsdale
To: Sub-Driver
I had a science professor who dismantled the hype with scientific facts and statistics. It was great to watch the ignorant young liberals squirm and say nothing.
To: MinorityRepublican
The ozone layer debate and coercive lobbying was done on behalf of those who would benefit the most, either financially or ideologically by the elimination of the most prevalent industrial gases containing chlorine compounds, mostly refrigerants.
Once this was accomplished the lobbying died down and now all we hear or see are annual reports on the Antarctic “hole” that shows up on schedule every year while varying in size but remaining pretty much the same as when all the hype was going on.
Since it is being more or less ignored it isn’t part of the daily conversation.
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:22:53 PM PDT
by
Old Professer
(The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
To: TUAN_JIM
In a previous post you said the oceans were releasing CO2 due to warming? Which is it?
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:23:30 PM PDT
by
Dinsdale
To: Dinsdale
In a previous post you said the oceans were releasing CO2 due to warming? Which is it? I never said that.
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:25:34 PM PDT
by
TUAN_JIM
(Sic Semper Tyrannis)
To: Sub-Driver
Today 61 and cloudy in Athens Greece and 66 and raining in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia today.
Global cooling here we come!
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:25:58 PM PDT
by
eleni121
(+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
To: Dinsdale
I repeat peer review works. Try telling that to Gore's backers and the frauds at realClimate.
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:27:03 PM PDT
by
sand88
(q)
To: Sub-Driver
But, but, but when should we begin to level the forests of the northern snow-covered climes so as to promote reflection of the sun's rays--since trees absorb the sun's energy and thus contribute to warming of the planet Earth (and Mars, too?)? /sarc.
.
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posted on
05/18/2007 1:27:34 PM PDT
by
OESY
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