New Zealand Weatherman on Global Warming: 'It's All Going to be a Joke in 5 Years'

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[cogitator]

If you haven't already watched it - you need to view the BBC's "The Great Global Warming Swindle". They prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that increases in CO2 follow warming trends - not precede them.

See point #5 in my profile; note link #11 in references.

[sand88]

The article was extremely erroneous.

I know you are a beliver in AGW. I am sure the Soros backed hacks at realClimate has spun another fantastic tale. They always repudiate anything that would indicate "natural" causes, but they ALWAYS support anything says it is AGW.

We will never come together on this issue. I respect your beliefs and appreciate your passion. You add to the discussion.

The only thing I know is that the solutions of Gore, et all will destroy our way of life, and KILL millions in the third world. I believe in my heart in the capacity of free humans to adapt and not be afraid of what changes lie ahead. Gore, et al have the irrational obsession with wanting to do something NOW. I believe the reason is that they know as the years pass, this fraud they are trying to perpetuate will unravel big time. Thank you and have a good night.

[GOPJ]

Thanks for the ping.

[palmer]

In a previous post you said the oceans were releasing CO2 due to warming? Which is it?

Both are true. The question is what is the net effect? The answer is that it can't be measured because of extreme uncertainties in our knowledge of the ocean conveyer and local effects.

[palmer]

But there is clear data regarding humans as the source of CO2. The rate of change is unprecedented in the ice core record.

The ice core record can't show changes like the current spike in CO2 because, apart from the last 10-20k years, it lacks the resolution to show anything other than many decades or even centuries averaged into single readings.

[palmer]

We are pumping CO2 into the atmosphere, it's not a big piece of the total greenhouse gas effect. But it's not a 3.2% increase in CO2 as stated in the article.

The article is poorly worded. The 18% or so increase that you pointed out (BTW, I agree it probably mostly manmade) turns into a 3.2% increase in greenhouse warming because the relationship from CO2 concentration to warming is logarithmic.

[Smokin' Joe]

heck, I remember the New Ice Age of the 1970s, Nuclear Winter in the 1980s, and the Ozone Holes of the 1990s.

Hey! There are going to be big bucks in being in the front of the wave of the next panic. Maybe we could cash in!

[Smokin' Joe]

Why are so many people willing to believe this global warming crap when it comes out of the mouths of celebrities!!

Because they don't understand that .045% is actually .00045, or 45/100,000. They lose it in the math.

[Smokin' Joe]

Global cooling here we come!

Good! Now we can BLAME the nitwits...

[Smokin' Joe]

The rate of change is unprecedented in the ice core record.

Please cite a source. I would like to review that data. Thank you.

[Pablo64]

"The real potential problem is the small warming caused by CO2..."

Actually, that's the part that they are lying to everyone about. The warming is not the result of an increase in CO2. It is exactly the opposite. The rise in CO2 preceeds the rise in temperature. The rise in CO2 is the result of the rise in temperature.

I wish I could remember the name of the scientist I heard on the radio explaining this, but when he was asked what was the one most important thing people needed to know about all the hysteria about man-made global warming, that was what he pointed out: the rise in temperature comes first, then the rise in CO2 as a result of that.

[Smokin' Joe]

Thanks for the link to an outstanding lecture!

[Mmmike]

20 years ago my science teacher told our class the world would be fresh out of oil in 5-10 years...

[eleni121]

Good! Now we can BLAME the nitwits...

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IN a larger sense many of them are nitwits but in a specifically strategizing sense their leadership is infested with dangerous anti capitalists who want to blame every negative event, be it an iceberg melting or a ghetto kid commiting a crime, on the economic system that has created such wealth for the common man around the world.

[Sweet Hour of Prayer]

Thanks for the link to “Aliens Cause Global Warming.” I printed the article and plan on sharing it with others I’ve been talking to about the false science used to prove global warming.

Crichton is simply the best at conveying scientific information in a manner that non-intellectuals can understand.

[Dinsdale]

You do realize peer review continues after publication.

I'd go so far as to say it mostly starts at publication.

Review committees are there to keep the journals from embarasing themselves. They are not the complete process which is open to outsiders that can make a coherent case.

The 'Hockey Stick' is a perfect example, but don't ask the MSM about it.

[philetus]

‘It’s All Going to be a Joke in 5 Years’”

Yep and the joke will be “how could we have been so wrong.We’re going into another ice age,the earth is freezing, we’re all going to die,aasaaaaaiiiiiiiyyyyyiiiii

[Dinsdale]

Please cite a source. I would like to review that data. Thank you.

A quick google search for "CO2 historic rate of change" returns many hits. The first of which is at:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/05/co2_ice_cores/

Not a primary source. But it should get you started.

To Quote:

Until very recently, the fastest rate of change was an increase of 30 parts per million over a thousand years. We have seen the same increase, 30ppm, in the last 17 years.

[xcamel]

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[Eric Blair 2084]

You folks on this thread aren't paying attention to the truth. I just went to the mailbox and picked up my latest issue of Cat Fancy. They say that man made Global Warming is real, and me and my cat are to blame. It's time for you folks to get in line and pay attention!