Z Visa = Z End of the Line

GOPUSA ^ | May 18, 2007 | Bobby Eberle

[yoe]

Around much “celebration,” the U.S. Senate announced on Thursday that a “deal” had been reached on “comprehensive” immigration reform. As I heard the details of the bill, I could feel the collective groans of the conservative movement, just as if we were all punched in the stomach. Why did we work so hard to build Republican majorities? Why did we spend so many hours at phone banks or going door to door? The past six years have seen an erosion of everything we’ve worked for, and now our “leaders” give us immigration “reform.”

Following announcement of the deal, President Bush said, “Immigration is a tough issue for a lot of Americans. The agreement reached today is one that will help enforce our borders, but equally importantly, it will treat people with respect. This is a bill where people who live here in our country will be treated without amnesty, but without animosity.”

Treat people with respect? You mean the millions and millions of Americans who don’t break the law and who are paying for illegal activity through their tax dollars? Oh, I see…

…“interior enforcement” of immigration laws. Provisions include:

– The stiffening of laws and penalties relate to:
* the detention of criminal aliens
* the definition of aggravated felony
* gang violence
* passport, visa, and immigration fraud, including marriage fraud
* the streamlining of background checks for immigration status

– Other provisions include language regarding:

* Increased penalties for illegally entry and reentry
* encouraging aliens to depart voluntarily
* prohibiting aliens to possess firearms
* alternatives to detention
* state and local law enforcement reimbursement and training

[GBA]

It is in times and for events like this that I am glad I am no longer a Republican, but instead register as an Independent. The thing is, I never left the Republican party left. They left me.

It is too bad there isn't a natural home for conservatives any longer. We were the silent majority and the moral majority. Now we are the apathetic majority hoping for cadidates we can support. Say what you will about poplularism and popular opinion, but when we follow conservativism, we are always a stronger and better nation.

[wastedyears]

I’m not all up and up on the possibility of civil war, so who would fight who?

[MNJohnnie]

Let see, you all spent all LAST year screaming and bitching at the House GOP leadership that had this thing killed. EVERY time anyone pointed out to you all that what the GOP was doing you all screamed hate at them.

You all actively worked FOR the Democrats all last year by spending ALL your time screaming at the GOP for not being dogmatically pure enough on Immigration. Well now you got the consequences of your actions. You were too busy screaming bile at everyone to support your political allies and now you have a Democrat controlled Congress that will pass this bill the House GOP had killed last year.

NOW, the Lefts have the votes to pass this thing and the ONLY thing standing in the way is a fillibuster that the GOP Senators are threatening. So what is the response? Same stupid screaming at the GOP!

YOU people are your own worst enemies. To arrogantly sure of your own infallibility to realize how utterly stupid it is to spend all your time sniping your own.

[Sicon]

I am thoroughly, completely, utterly disgusted with W. 2008 can’t come soon enough - and I voted for him in 2000 and 2004. Today, you seriously couldn’t pay me to vote for him.

[tumblindice]

“the Always Whining thru a hissy fit” (MNJ’s stock invective)

“Well the day is finally here. It is a day where our Congress and *our President* have come together to grant legal residency and then citizenship to millions of illegal aliens who broke the law. Criminals in this country will be on a fast track to becoming citizens, with the same rights and benefits as you and me.” (from the earlier Boortz thread)

`Ornery and stoopid is no way to go through life, MNJ.’ Dean TD

[JennysCool]

Anyone who doesn’t realize that the drive-by media spent much of the ‘06 election promoting the “You’re not conservative enough!” trope to set Republicans against one another will probably fall for the same thing in ‘08.

The choice between putting up with a few RINOS running around, or both houses of Congress in control of the Democrats, was a complete no-brainer.

Thanks again, “protest voters.”

[MNJohnnie]

Pretty typical. The Always Whining simply look for the next scapegoat rather then looking in the mirror to see who is the REAL cause of their political woes.

[hophead]

The Senators and press are calling this a “compromise”. They are correct. It “compromises” US sovereignty and the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

[tumblindice]

My invective was aimed at you, MJN, not a scapegoat.

[hophead]

“They aren’t enforcing the laws we already have. Why will they enforce any of these new ones”

Trust us, trust us! Say the backers.

[Hydroshock]

I will not vote for democrats because they are liberal, and now the same reson holds true for many republicans.

[Ouderkirk]

[Thrownatbirth]

it will treat people with respect

The same people with so much respect for my country's sovereignty. /s

[Noumenon]

Just think of some of the economic / cultural / idological fault lines that have developed over the last few decades. There’s plenty of resentment to go around. Blacks, the reconquista crowd, disaffected entitlement types, frothing-at-the-mouth anarcho-leftisties, and the opportunists who’ll take advantage of any sort of conflict. When the shooting does start, it’s going to be weird and complex. And no less tragic for all that.

[Bean Counter]

Why ask a man who is already lost to lead you? Why then are you surprized if he leads you nowhere?

"A thousand lives"
D. Idaho

[Dead Corpse]

Let's see, we spent most of that time screaming that the GOP was leaning leftward entirely too much.

And you keep cheerleading their leftward march...

Kinda makes you the enemy doesn't it.

[Halls]

that is what I’m thinking. It is time for a new party to form. If the real conservatives will step out, form a new party, we will follow them if they lead us that direction. The Republican party is clearly split now. It is heartbreaking to see this. This country may go through hell for a bit, but the new party will come out strong and eventually take over IMO.

The Republican party is gone and is over.

[kabar]

"Teach the Republicans a lesson" well you are reaping what you all spent most of last year sowing so don't come crying to those of us who told you how stupid you were being.

But we have a Rep President who will uphold the constitution and the rule of law. Surely he will not sign a bill that legalizes immediately the status of 12 to 20 million people who violated our laws in multiple ways. I am sure Bush will veto this one and not go against the majority of his own party. Thank God we still have a Republican President.

What specific races would the Reps have won based on your theory that Reps were trying to teach their fellow Reps a lesson?

[thecabal]

That’s funny, you calling those dissapointed with the GOP the “Always Whining”, since you RINOs drag out that same chestnut every day. Right, if we had just bent over one more time for the RINOs, everything would be flowers and unicorns right now. We tried that for years and it got us nowhere. We did not screw over the GOP, they screwed us and we are finally getting fed up. I think you forget who works for whom.

[Halls]

I’ve thought this for a long time. Scary, isn’t it!