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To: Reaganesque

I’m not running for President. I get to spend irrational amounts of time on the internet pointing others in a direction that I came to understand in my teens.

Let me put it this way. I was born into a family very much like Romney. The only difference is, I found out the Joseph Smith was a fraud when I was about 12 years old. It took me years to extricate myself from my familial pressures to pretend a “faith” in something I knew to be a lie, but I did it. I still have moral principals. In fact it is my moral principals that drive me. Do you know that about 1/2 of the approximate 5,000,000 LDS members who live in the United States don’t believe the claims of Joseph Smith and in fact have left the Church. That leaves approximately 3,000,000 people in America that share his same irrational belief...whether or not that makes them “moral” is still a matter of debate. That is just 1% of the population. Many of the rest of us think he is deluded.

It took a great deal of personal fortitude for me to leave behind Mormonism. I basically had to leave everything I loved about my cultural heritage behind. BUT I did it. Can Romney not see that the claims of Mormonism are based upon a fraud? 99% of America can see it. Will they vote for a man who can’t?

Karl Marx was born in the same year as Joseph Smith. Followers of Karl Marx can be “moral” people. They too can be very successful in their financial life, and married to one spouse. Would you vote for that person?


13 posted on 05/18/2007 5:52:23 AM PDT by colorcountry ("You step in crap once and spend the rest of your life scraping it off.")
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To: colorcountry; Reaganesque
"Will they vote for a man who can’t?"

No.

And trying to compare Romney to Kennedy, (a Catholic), is a bogus argument. The Catholic Church is not based upon fraudulent doctrine.

14 posted on 05/18/2007 5:58:45 AM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: colorcountry
Well, said my friend. Duncan Hunter is the MAN!

We have to start getting good moral people to see that we can't wait for the media to pick someone. They have already shown us who they like:Rooty & Mitt.

gohunter08.com

16 posted on 05/18/2007 6:07:48 AM PDT by RichardMoore (gohunter08.com)
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To: colorcountry
Isn't there a possibility that Mitt the anointed one is an insider with some of the billions squirreled away by the church? I have heard that in a devious third party way, he has been chosen to handle their funds. Like I've always said you can be very successful with a bag full of OPM. Especially LDS funds which are endless.
20 posted on 05/18/2007 6:25:04 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah, where the world comes to see America)
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To: colorcountry
I’ve now heard it all.

Jews think that Christians are “duped” by the false story of Jesus Christ being the Son of God. Moslems believe that Christians have perverted the truth of the prophet Jesus Christ by making Him God. There are wonderful protestant Christians who believe the Pope to be the Great Whore spoken of in the New Testament.

One person’s cult is another persons truth. Just because you do or don’t believe in something your family believes in or because you believe in something your family does not believe in does not make it so or not so.

Who appointed you the judge of anyones faith? Will you decide for me if my religious beliefs are good or bad?

The fact is Mr. Romney appears to live what most of us would call a good life. He has raised up good kids that are productive Americans paying taxes. The one wife he has had since youth supports him and thinks he is a good man.

I don’t care anything about whether or not the reason he is good is because of a false story or because of the truth. None of that changes the fact that he is a good man.

It also happens that he has a proven track record of leadership. He is well spoken, articulate, good looking and has no skeletons in his closet.

He is not everything I want, certainly Mr. Hunter is a lot closer to that but I don’t believe Mr. Hunter has the ability to gain the support that Mr. Romney has. Mr. Romney has already raised a lot of money. While we may not like it, in the USA you have to raise money to get elected. I think that Mr. Romney is the JFK of this era and can gain the support of many Conservative Democrats just as many Rebublicans voted for Mr Kennedy. You can’t win the White House without that support, Mr. Hunter, as wonderful as his ideals are will never win that support.

I would much rather have Mr. Romney win the presidency while supporting most of my political goals than have Mr. Hunter who probably supports nearly all of my goals loose.

Dissaffected Mormons have no good reason that I can think of for maligning the good name of good practicing Mormons.

It is OK for people to have different religions.

21 posted on 05/18/2007 6:58:02 AM PDT by JAKraig (Joseph Kraig)
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To: colorcountry
I was born into a family very much like Romney.

You are misrepresenting your personal life here to bash Romney. You have openly discussed your personal upbringing in the past many times on this forum and I would say it is very different than Romney's

142 posted on 05/18/2007 9:29:40 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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