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Property rights, what property rights. /sarc
1 posted on 05/17/2007 11:19:29 PM PDT by anymouse
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Every petty government bureaucrat’s a Commissar in our Brave New World.


2 posted on 05/17/2007 11:24:30 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Zoning has been around for a long time. Our county zones minimum acreage for subdivisions (any split) for a variety of reasons - to preserve prime ag land, deer wintering range, ensure adequate distancing for septic systems/wells, keep building out of flood zones, etc. You can’t just split off what you want and sell it or give it away.


3 posted on 05/17/2007 11:29:02 PM PDT by marsh2
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The article doesn’t say how Wynn “gave” his son the acre. You can’t just “give” somebody land and then they own it. The principle of private land ownership wouldn’t be worth much without the system of requiring land transfers and divisions to be properly surveyed and recorded. If you say somebody’s trespassing on your land, you obviously can’t expect any help from law enforcement if there’s no legal record of your ownership, and no clear survery showing exactly where your land begins and ends. My father had a problem that went on for years, re an easement on a country property. The guy that bought the neighboring land claimed his property line went a few yards further than it actually did, and claimed he had the right to stop my father from using that strip, which just happened to be the only road access to the cabin on my dad’s property. The only way it ever got sorted out was because all land transfers are required to be recorded at the county courthouse and all land divisions require a survey.


5 posted on 05/18/2007 12:07:48 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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“I thought I lived in America — I could give land to him if I wanted to,” Wynn said. “This floored me to death.”

Welcome to the United Soviet Socialist States of America, Bud.
Vote Democrat?

6 posted on 05/18/2007 12:12:03 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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This is a tough one. But!
But haveing seen “people” building houses for there “mother” on unbuildable lots when I was in CA. (like land on the side of 80% slope) But it always seemed for some reason a For sale sign would appear as the house was finished.

For some reason there mothers could never move in.


7 posted on 05/18/2007 1:19:07 AM PDT by quietolong
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Let me get this straight. He thinks he "owns" the land?

Comrade, let's have a talk. I'll go make some borscht.

8 posted on 05/18/2007 1:58:24 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Fascism in America - Property rights mean nothing if you can't bequeath YOUR own land to your own children.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

10 posted on 05/18/2007 2:54:10 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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More Texas weirdness. Texas is seriously going down the tubes. Don’t believe me? You must not be on FREEPERS enough...


11 posted on 05/18/2007 2:57:55 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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It’s all about an out-of-control government trying to implement communism in every way that it can - seize private property.


13 posted on 05/18/2007 3:00:33 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (private property: a thing of the past, a lost right, wherever leftists get into power)
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If a “developer” buys the land a few dollars will change hands under the table and a subdivision will be created. That’s most likely what has upset city officials most. They didn’t get their usual payoff.


14 posted on 05/18/2007 3:06:32 AM PDT by FreePaul
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I’m sure HARXIST—her hideous heinous—Shrillery Antoinette de Fosterizer de Marx de Machiavelli . . . de Sade would be glad to help out.

SSTTM

(Super Sarcasm To The Max)


15 posted on 05/18/2007 3:30:50 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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The old man should have just made the kid co-owner of the twelve acres. Then the kid could have built his house anyway with no problem.


19 posted on 05/18/2007 5:22:47 AM PDT by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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"I thought I lived in America"

quaint ain't it.

20 posted on 05/18/2007 5:26:44 AM PDT by Pietro
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Recind the sale and give the Son a perpetual lease for one dollar per year. Problem solved.


26 posted on 05/18/2007 6:15:09 AM PDT by joebuck
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Just a reminder that here in New Aztlan, you don’t own your land - you rent it from the government.


27 posted on 05/18/2007 6:16:29 AM PDT by piceapungens
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Ping me when this guy gets fed up with the petty dictators and pulls a Carl Drega.
29 posted on 05/18/2007 6:23:24 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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I live in the Washington DC area. A co-worker bought a parcel of land in a suburban area—it was a refuse strewn wooded lot. He wanted to subdivide it into three lots for houses—which he was basically assured was doable.

He bought the property for a few hundred thousand. Thus far he has spent $60,000 for lawyers and engineers to help him get approval from Alexandria to divide the land. This has been in the works for years now.

Finally in desperation (not saying it was the right thing) he bribed the city engineer to the tune of $5000 who assured him he would see it through. Almost two years later, it is still winding its way through the system.

To be a good neighbor (there are 8 houses in an adjoining lot) he went to the neighbors to tell them what he is doing and see if there were any objections and to work with them. A number of them (rich folks)have demanded various accomodations which will cost him thousands.

Unfortunately this whole system has been taken over by the rich, corrupt, and well connected so that the average person does not stand much of a chance.


34 posted on 05/18/2007 6:54:23 AM PDT by applpie
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The Solution is Easy since the father never "Sold" the land to his son, it is still the fathers. The father puts the land into Trust for his son and applies for the building permit.

When the father passes on, the son has the land.

One word of warning. Appoint a manager to see that the taxes and any liens are always taken care of otherwise the city will get their grabbers onto the land for sure.

36 posted on 05/18/2007 7:15:49 AM PDT by sr4402
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This is an example of dual ownership. Both you and the state own the land. Unfortunately, the state can permit things over your objection while you can only deny things until somebody gets a permit from the state.


41 posted on 05/18/2007 8:24:38 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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Wynn said he doesn’t understand why he now has to pay to have his land platted when he hasn’t changed anything about his property.

If he lopped off an acre of his property so that his son could build a house, he HAS changed his property. Surely he didn't expect his son to be able to get a building permit in his own name, and construct a home on the property in his own name, unless he owned it free and clear, or at least had a legal deed to the property.

46 posted on 05/18/2007 8:41:55 AM PDT by SuziQ
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