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Deal struck on immigration bill (in the Senate, now over to the House for action)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/17/07 | Julie Hirschfeld Davis - ap

Posted on 05/17/2007 10:16:31 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - A bipartisan group of senators reached agreement with the White House Thursday on an immigration overhaul to grant quick legal status to millions of illegal immigrants already in the U.S. and fortify the border against new ones.

One of the key negotiators, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., said he expects President Bush to endorse it.

The deal came after weeks of painstaking closed-door negotiations that brought the most liberal Democrats and the most conservative Republicans together with Bush's Cabinet officers to produce a highly complex measure that carries heavy political consequences.

It set the stage for what promises to be a bruising battle next week in the Senate on one of Bush's top non-war priorities.

This is a breaking news update. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican and Democratic senators huddled Thursday trying to close in on an immigration compromise to grant quick legal status to millions of undocumented immigrants while fortifying U.S. borders against new ones.

A group of lawmakers that has been haggling over the terms of agreement for weeks were reviewing language negotiated Wednesday night in efforts to nail down a deal. Among the final sticking points was a stubborn dispute over how much family ties count toward green cards under a new "point system." The plan prioritizes advanced skills and education levels for future immigrants.

Two of the lead negotiators, Sens. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., and Lindsey Graham (news, bio, voting record), R-S.C., booked time for Thursday afternoon in the Senate's radio-TV gallery for an announcement.

But Kennedy said some were hanging back as an agreement inched closer.

"There are just some people who don't want to close on this. There comes a time in every negotiation where people have to close," Kennedy said. "Today is it."

Kennedy said Thursday was likely the last chance for a compromise before senators scattered for a three-day weekend.

"The immigration reform legislation has come to a boiling point," Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., said just before going into Thursday's meeting. "We've tried to come to a consensus and I think we are very, very close, but every time we grasp it, it eludes a final resolution."

If no deal emerged, Senate Democrats were to vote Monday evening to bring up an immigration measure that passed last year over the objections of most Republicans, who have said they will block it. That would be a highly partisan start to the immigration debate, which divides the two parties and exposes fissures within their ranks.

Even with a bipartisan agreement, the immigration debate could easily devolve into a free-for-all in the unruly Senate.

Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record), D-Nev., has said he wants to complete a bill before Memorial Day, and President Bush says he wants to sign one by summer's end.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; buildthewall; bushamnesty; bushobl; cw11; cw2; deal; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; nau; struck; traitors
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To: Rutles4Ever
. The Jews were looked upon the same way people are viewing Mexicans now.

Cripes! You insult the holocaust and those that died in it. You're like one of those recoquistas telling this invasion is the same as the civil rights movement.

Who did the Jews invade, mooch off and kill THOUSANDS of people? When? Where?

Shame on you.

1,201 posted on 05/17/2007 5:47:37 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: jveritas
Why do you think the government is not fining these employers relentlessly?

Because they put the traitors in office!!!

Welcome to America, bought and paid for with the blessings of all you 'internationalists'.

1,202 posted on 05/17/2007 5:54:05 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: jveritas
OK, darn-it, I guess I have to post this..written by John Hawkins from Right Wing News.com

"J.D. Hayworth's loss was particularly noteworthy because unlike the other candidates being mentioned, he could fairly be called one of the leaders of the "tough on illegal immigration" crowd.

For example, on October 24, 2006, here's a message that was posted prominently on the front of Mitchell's web page:

"I'm proud to show you the second television spot of our campaign which highlights an important issue to all Arizonan(s): securing our border and ending illegal immigration.

My opponent likes to talk tough about immigration, but the truth is he and those in Washington have failed in their responsibility to secure our border.

The number of illegal immigrants in our state has increased 400% during his tenure in Congress. My opponent has rewarded illegal immigration by voting for amnesty four times.

Just last month, he voted against 12,000 additional Border Patrol agents and against implementing the border security recommendations of the bi-partisan 9/11 Commission. In his 12 years in Congress, J.D. has given us a lot of rhetoric, but not a lot of results."

Now, after reading that, does it sound like J.D. Hayworth had problems because he was "too tough" on illegal immigration? No, it doesn't".

So did they vote him out because he was too tough on illegal immigration? Or not tough enough? Or did his opponent lie? You decide.

sw

1,203 posted on 05/17/2007 5:55:19 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (ZAP the Z visa)
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To: EternalVigilance

He’s been show this same stuff for at least 4 years. Just beat your head on the desk, you’ll accomplish more and probably feel better.


1,204 posted on 05/17/2007 5:56:04 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: SittinYonder
"Tom Tancredo has no chance of being in a position to veto anything....he’s un-electable." "That's precisely the attitude that brought us amnesty today".

Thanks."

No...what HAS brought us here today is the fielding of non-electable Republican candidates, who don't have a CHANCE of winning an election, regardless of how you wish they could.

If we don't field candidates that CAN GET ELECTED, you are wasting your time supporting them. Rally behind someone who CAN get elected, instead of bloviating about a non-contender who will result in yet ANOTHER Democrat winning an election.

1,205 posted on 05/17/2007 5:57:01 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: zerosix
Only two Republicans currently running for President, oppose this and any other “immigration bill,” i.e. Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo.

Mitt Romney strongly opposes this latest move too.

http://www.mittromney.com/News/Press-Releases/Governor_Mitt_Romney_On_The_Senate_Immigration_Agreement

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Kevin Madden (857) 288-6390 Boston, MA - Governor Mitt Romney issued the following statement on today's U.S. Senate agreement on immigration reform: "I strongly oppose today's bill going through the Senate. It is the wrong approach. Any legislation that allows illegal immigrants to stay in the country indefinitely, as the new 'Z-Visa' does, is a form of amnesty. That is unfair to the millions of people who have applied to legally immigrate to the U.S. "Today's Senate agreement falls short of the actions needed to both solve our country's illegal immigration problem and also strengthen our legal immigration system. Border security and a reliable employment verification system must be our first priority."
1,206 posted on 05/17/2007 5:57:16 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: weef

Ronald Reagn also granted amnesty to illegals yet he is rightly considered one of our nations greatest presidents.


1,207 posted on 05/17/2007 5:57:57 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (He who stands against Israel stands against God. - Rev. Jerry Falwell)
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To: AuntB
"Welcome to America, bought and paid for with the blessings of all you 'internationalists'"

You got it right on the money, AuntB. Ooh-Rah !

1,208 posted on 05/17/2007 5:58:56 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: All
What will be the immediate result of this abominable legislation? Anyone care to guess? I will:

Ollie ollie in free!

A stampede of MILLIONS more across the border so they can be here when the legislation goes into effect.

1,209 posted on 05/17/2007 5:59:17 PM PDT by JCEccles (“Politics ain’t beanbag” Finley Peter Dunne)
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To: khnyny

Strangely, while Gov. of MA, Romney NEVER spoke a word about illegal immigration in his state.


1,210 posted on 05/17/2007 5:59:53 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: jveritas
It is really shocking how the majority of freepers cannot see the simple fact that it is impossible to deport 12 million immigrants.

Baloney! Cut off the free medical care, schooling, and such. And, don't give them licenses. Watch them trickle back over the border when the free ride runs out. Maybe we can get a few liberals to follow.

1,211 posted on 05/17/2007 6:00:18 PM PDT by meyer (Bring back the Contract with America and you'll bring back the Republican majority.)
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To: NormsRevenge
and they will all vote for democrats,goodbye Republican party you are not the minority party you are nonexistence.the GOP just signed their own death certificate.
1,212 posted on 05/17/2007 6:01:31 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: FOXFANVOX

Yeah, the President also said this is about “treating people with respect.” Respect? RESPECT?!?! What the hell is he talking about? We have millions of people of here who have NO respect at all for OUR laws, OUR borders, or OUR country and we are supposed to RESPECT THAT??? Their very first act on OUR soil was to break our laws and now we need to treat them with respect???

I am sorry, but this is all so absurd! Is there another country on the face of the Earth that has policians that are this braindead?

I am at a point of nearly being beyond words to express my anger, frustration, and sheer disbelief at what is actually happening right now!


1,213 posted on 05/17/2007 6:03:29 PM PDT by FarRightFanatic ("I'm Barack Hussein Obama...and I approved this taqiyya.")
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To: AuntB
"Because they put the traitors in office!!!"

And now those "traitors" are hell-bent on doing something... even if it's absolutely wrong!!! (and they know it's stupid, as well)

1,214 posted on 05/17/2007 6:04:32 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
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To: AuntB

1,216 posted on 05/17/2007 6:06:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (It wasn't a debate. It was a mass interview....)
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To: meyer

“the simple fact that it is impossible to deport 12 million immigrants.”

That would be ILLEGAL immigrants.

Take away the incentive to be here and guess what? They leave on their own.


1,217 posted on 05/17/2007 6:07:44 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: ZULU
I am confused by all of you who say this would be the end of the Republican Party. Regardless of whether President Bush signs or not, the great majority of Republican Senators and Congressmen should vote against it, while the Dems will all vote for it. It will clearly be seen as a Democrat Bill. Seems like a big win for Republicans IF the great majority of them vote against it like I suspect.
1,218 posted on 05/17/2007 6:08:01 PM PDT by June Cleaver (in here, Ward . . .)
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To: AuntB

New tagline...


1,219 posted on 05/17/2007 6:08:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Since yesterday morning the manpower for another army division has crossed the southern border)
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To: traditional1
No...what HAS brought us here today is the fielding of non-electable Republican candidates, who don't have a CHANCE of winning an election, regardless of how you wish they could.

Ridiculous hogwash.

The Republicans have held the White House, the House and the Senate for most of this decade. It was "electable" Republicans who were weak on spending, weak on illegal immigration, weak on tax reform, weak on moving forward with the promises they made to get elected that lost their control in the House and Senate and helped to bring us this bipartisan amnesty today.

This foolishness about "electibility" is why the party is falling apart - we settle for candidates who settle for weakness and compromise.

I'll vote for the unelectable candidates with principles over the weak every time. The principled Republicans - Tancredo, King, Coburn, Linder - win their elections when the Country Club establishment doesn't step in their way and sabatoge them for the likes of Specter and Isakson in the primaries.

I'm sick of being lectured by County Club Republicans who love their big government about "electibility."

1,220 posted on 05/17/2007 6:08:41 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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