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Michelle [Malkin] Takes on Ron Paul and the Truthers (Lumps Him In With Fellow "Truther" O'Donnell)
HotAir.com ^ | 05/16/2007 | Michelle Malkin (via Bryan)

Posted on 05/16/2007 4:24:00 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Video clip of her easily dissecting the whack-job "truther" movement on FOX's The Big Story, here.

Enjoy. ;)


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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To: Tribune7

Why? Our attention spans are longer than that, one hopes, and Dr. Paul doesn’t speak in sound bites. He never has.


81 posted on 05/17/2007 6:18:40 AM PDT by Xenalyte (You have to defile a mummy completely, or they come back to life. You know that.)
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To: Xenalyte
"Those who say he said we deserved 9/11 are liars or stupid."

I agree. Still there are those who deny OBL's own admission as the "reason" being that he planned the attacks upon the US. That reason was Iraq, as documented in OBL's 1998 PBS interview - whether or not we deem it justified, OBL gave Iraq as a motivator. He even stated then terrorists were already in the US planning attacks, but Giuliani says he's never heard any of that before. It tells me Giuliani isn't quite the war on terror expert he supposes he is, or Giuliani simply lied to grandstand.

From what I've been abled to piece together, from the 1998 PBS OBL interview and the statements made specifically putting US presence in Iraq as a motivator to attack the US, from the return of the Saudi prince's check and the reason behind Giuliani's rejection being the prince linked the US presence in the ME to the attacks, from Giuliani's assertion he's the "best qualified" to lead the WOT because of his understanding the terrorists, if the latter being true I'd say Giuliani lied.

And I'm no Ron Paul fan, but it disgusts me to see Giuliani's cold exploitation of the 9/11 attacks for his own political ambitions and his manipulation of the truth for his own interest.

82 posted on 05/17/2007 6:26:44 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: billbears

First of all, he wasn’t stating “facts” — he was stating his opinion that U.S. involvement in the middle east was the cause of the 9/11 attacks. My problem is not that Paul looks to Bin Laden’s words to explain why we were attacked, but that he is following Bin Laden’s prescription for making terror attacks effective.


83 posted on 05/17/2007 6:27:20 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: Xenalyte
Why?

Because he was specifically given the opportunity to make clear whether he thought we invited it and he didn't take it.

If he said "no" then elaborated that still would have been helpful. But you can read his answer all day and still not be sure he didn't think we invited it simply because he was specifically asked and didn't give a specific answer.

Being clear is not the same as speaking in a soundbite.

I don't dislike Paul. He's much, much better than my representative. But I don't want him as president.

84 posted on 05/17/2007 6:28:55 AM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: West Coast Conservative

This is the first time I’ve heard the term “truther.” What does it mean? Does it mean those crazies who think WTC 7 was taken down by George & Marvin Bush?


85 posted on 05/17/2007 6:40:31 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Because either answer may be written out, short form, as: W-H-A-C-K-J-O-B

That's the point that his supporters seem to be missing. Ron Paul may be a rock solid defender of the Constitution, a patriot, a veteran, and a staunch conservative. He's also bonkers.

The first rule of being a politician is that you have to get elected. In order to get elected, you have to understand and balance who the people are, what they want, and what they need. Paul may be a great conservative ideologue, but he's got a tin ear for national politics. People that either don't understand what will alienate their base, or don't care, aren't competative politicians.

Locally, sure. Maxine Waters thinks the CIA's been selling crack to black people for years. Hats off to the 35th district of California for keeping her off the streets and giving her a job. But that charity ends once she leaves her district. You can't sell crazy nation-wide.

If you want to have stupid views, that's fine. But if you don't know they're stupid, or consequences-be-damned you're going to voice them anyway, expect to be cast aside as a loon.

86 posted on 05/17/2007 6:41:08 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (If every Republican is a RINO, then no Republican is a RINO.)
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To: soccermom
First of all, he wasn’t stating “facts” — he was stating his opinion that U.S. involvement in the middle east was the cause of the 9/11 attacks.

So the 9/11 Commission Report isn't fact? Interesting, I thought I read it, I guess I didn't....and I guess Al Qaeda's reasons given in 1996 for declaring war on the US didn't happen either...Hmmmm, and read that right even here on this site as it was posted several times

Thank you for clarifying the Republican party is dismissing so much written word (some of it by our own government) to get the 'message' out.

but that he is following Bin Laden’s prescription for making terror attacks effective.

What because he refused to answer a question based on next season's 24?

87 posted on 05/17/2007 6:50:50 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: RobbyS

Paul was referring to this section of the 911 Commission Report. While Bush and Giuliani would prefer to paint their enemy in whatever terms are convenient, thankfully people like Ron Paul understand that you must know your enemy if you wish to defeat him.

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/pdf/sec2.pdf


88 posted on 05/17/2007 7:26:15 AM PDT by j24601
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To: billbears
LOL! Of course the 9/11 Commission Report isn't a "fact" -- it is a finding -- a conclusion, a list of suggestions, etc based on gathered information. The "fact" that Al Queda wrote a manifesto listing grievances does not mean those grievances caused terror any more than the Unabomber's manifesto means capitalism caused terror. It is Paul's opinion. Got it?

"What because he refused to answer a question based on next season's 24?" Uhhh....nooooo.... because he is advocating precisely what Bin Laden predicted -- withdrawal in the face of terror. If a child shoots his teacher while ranting about being given a bad grade, does that mean the bad grade explains the shooting? I don't necessarily think so. It may provide insight, but I'm sure there is more to the story. But let's assume someone wants to point to the shooter's rantings as the explanation. Fine. Is the answer, then, to never give bad grades again? That is my primary criticism of Paul. He isn't merely pointing to U.S. involvement to explain terror. He is, in effect, blaming the U.S. policy and validating the terrorists by advocating our withdrawal.
89 posted on 05/17/2007 7:29:09 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: Swordfished

‘In my opinion Ron Paul cares more about the U.S. Constitution than anybody here. ‘

Everybody is entitled to their opinion. And I don’t doubt Ron Paul ‘cares about the Constitution’.

Doesn’t change the fact he sounds like a leftwingnut, Bush Derangement Syndrome, Kook.

Congressman Paul is a Libertarian, unless there is a GOP fundraiser that he will benefit from.


90 posted on 05/17/2007 7:35:08 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: pandoraou812

(chuckle)


91 posted on 05/17/2007 7:37:06 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Xenalyte

He didn’t say that we deserved 9/11, but more that we indirectly caused 9/11—”blowback,” right? That statement can be easily misinterpreted/spun into “we deserved it.”

I don’t agree with the guy, and think his foreign policy is unsound (and disagree 100% with him on the alleged causes for Islamic terror against us), but no, he didn’t say we deserved it.

}:-)4


92 posted on 05/17/2007 7:38:05 AM PDT by Moose4 (Deport 'em. I don't need landscaping and I'll pay more for lettuce.)
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To: Dante3

‘To equate him with Rosie is absurd.’

On the topic of 9/11 there isn’t much difference between them. They both blame America for it, as his own words demonstrated conclusively in the debate. You can’t spin it.


93 posted on 05/17/2007 7:38:47 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Badeye

But apparently you can spin it.

Or you can’t tell the difference between an explanation, which he gave, and a justification, which you choose to call it.


94 posted on 05/17/2007 7:42:31 AM PDT by Xenalyte (You have to defile a mummy completely, or they come back to life. You know that.)
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To: Xenalyte

“I am freakin’ fed up with the absolute misrepresentation of what Dr. Paul said.

Those who say he said we deserved 9/11 are liars or stupid.”

Yet, his words are very clear to everybody but himself, and his supporters....


95 posted on 05/17/2007 7:42:58 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Badeye

Well, no, they are not clear, as your mischaracterization continues to demonstrate.


96 posted on 05/17/2007 7:44:42 AM PDT by Xenalyte (You have to defile a mummy completely, or they come back to life. You know that.)
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To: Xenalyte

‘How did Paul give terrorists a pass?’

By forgetting the time frame between the 1972 Olympic Massacre and the end of the Gulf War.

Around 500 Americans had been killed by Muslim extremists between those dates. He choose to focus on the decade after the Gulf War, and thereby undermined his own credibility on the topic.


97 posted on 05/17/2007 7:45:11 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Badeye

Um, that is not “giving them a pass.”

Giving someone a pass means excusing their actions. I dare you to show me where Dr. Paul did that.


98 posted on 05/17/2007 7:46:11 AM PDT by Xenalyte (You have to defile a mummy completely, or they come back to life. You know that.)
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To: jrooney

Paul/Kucinich 2008.

The jokes on us.


99 posted on 05/17/2007 7:46:17 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (the Democrat(ic) caucus of corruption)
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To: pissant

‘The constitution was not intended to be a suicide pact or an excuse to be the world’s patsies.’

Bingo.

The fact the terrorists want to erase the Constitution we have seems to escape this kook Congresscritter.


100 posted on 05/17/2007 7:46:29 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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