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BIN LADEN'S FATWA (Why Ron Paul was Factually Correct) (UBL cited Iraq in 1996 Declaration of War)
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Posted on 05/15/2007 8:04:25 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis

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To: Remember_Salamis
Apparently, neither can Paul.

He doesn't understand why we are ALWAYS going to be a target any more than the moonbats his supporters do. If we isolated ourselves like the Paulbots want, it would destroy this country faster than the Islamofascists could ever dream of. you'd really have to hate America and her citizens to advocate that.

41 posted on 05/15/2007 8:31:30 PM PDT by jess35
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To: Remember_Salamis
Spain, Indonesia, Bali, India, Pakistan, Turkey, Phillipines, Germany, England, just to name a few.....

And yes, supporting Ron Paul does seem to make one dumb, even if you can spell caliphate.

And, of course.....it's all our fault.

42 posted on 05/15/2007 8:31:54 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Before 2004 election from Bin Laden....

That Osama Bin Laden Speach in Full
[ This seems to have been quoted only in tiny fragments, if at all, in the main news media, so here is the English Translation of the full text of Osama Bin Laden’s statement released on the 29th October 2004. It is certainly an interesting insight into how he tries to justify his actions. ]

Praise be to Allah who created the creation for his worship and commanded them to be just and permitted the wronged one to retaliate against the oppressor in kind. To proceed:

Peace be upon he who follows the guidance: People of America this talk of mine is for you and concerns the ideal way to prevent another Manhattan, and deals with the war and its causes and results.

Before I begin, I say to you that security is an indispensable pillar of human life and that free men do not forfeit their security, contrary to Bush’s claim that we hate freedom.

If so, then let him explain to us why we don’t strike for example - Sweden? And we know that freedom-haters don’t possess defiant spirits like those of the 19 - may Allah have mercy on them.

No, we fight because we are free men who don’t sleep under oppression. We want to restore freedom to our nation, just as you lay waste to our nation. So shall we lay waste to yours.

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At a time when some of our compatriots were dazzled by America and hoping that these visits would have an effect on our countries, all of a sudden he was affected by those monarchies and military regimes, and became envious of their remaining decades in their positions, to embezzle the public wealth of the nation without supervision or accounting.

So he took dictatorship and suppression of freedoms to his son and they named it the Patriot Act, under the pretence of fighting terrorism. In addition, Bush sanctioned the installing of sons as state governors, and didn’t forget to import expertise in election fraud from the region’s presidents to Florida to be made use of in moments of difficulty.

All that we have mentioned has made it easy for us to provoke and bait this administration. All that we have to do is to send two mujahidin to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al-Qaida, in order to make the generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic, and political losses without their achieving for it anything of note other than some benefits for their private companies.

http://www.nofear.org/Archives/2004/11/that_osama_bin.html


43 posted on 05/15/2007 8:32:36 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Waiting on GOD...)
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To: Remember_Salamis
I like how FOX is going to interview Paul LAST, however.

You caught that, too, huh? I'm anxious to hear his comments.

44 posted on 05/15/2007 8:33:58 PM PDT by CrawDaddyCA (My goodness, is everyone around here smoking crack?)
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To: Desperately Seeking Freedom
Do any of you all actually believe we are being attacked because they hate our freedom?

No we're being attacked because we hate their tyranny and are an obstacle to their spreading of it.

Why aren’t they attacking Monaco and Costa Rica and Switzerland, too?

They plan to subjugate them after they are done destroying us. They are aiming for the head. They will consume the appendages at their leisure.

45 posted on 05/15/2007 8:34:05 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: TortReformer

Freudian slip?


46 posted on 05/15/2007 8:34:09 PM PDT by bacterialalbatross
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To: docbnj
Ron is something of a nut, for sure

Sure is.......and apparently he has quite a few followers that have that same eccentric quality of being here.

47 posted on 05/15/2007 8:34:30 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Arcy

God help us with simpletons like you who don’t understand basic but extreme political distinctions between libertarian conservatives and liberalism. You really need to get off this site and read a book once in a while.


48 posted on 05/15/2007 8:35:00 PM PDT by jerseymike
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To: TortReformer
Yes; we were attacked first on 9/11, and we had a right to retaliate for that.

Ron Paul supported retaliation in Afghanistan.

He actually drafted a writ of marque that called for a contract to be put out on the Taliban and al-Qaida. Blackwater Security (or DynCorp, or any other mercs) would roll in and slaughter the whole bunch.

49 posted on 05/15/2007 8:35:34 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!)
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To: Desperately Seeking Freedom
You sound like my kids school teachers. As for attacking the countries you mention, there is no political or religeous capital in doing that. However the islamic fanatics have been blowing up trains, buses, embassies, etc. for a long time.

Read this chronological history of islamic terrorism.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1692946/posts

Then invite this guy over as a dinner guest.

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50 posted on 05/15/2007 8:37:24 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Lakeshark

Rudy bitch slapped Ron Paul which he rightly deserved.

The rest of this stuff is crap.


51 posted on 05/15/2007 8:37:34 PM PDT by fullosseousflap (Flap)
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To: Remember_Salamis
OBL and his Islamic cults have roamed the globe for decades murdering innocents in the marketplace with impunity.

And the world blamed ISRAEL.

So they continued into murder, kidnap and behead, and now the world, and friends, ie the Paul/DNC/UN/MSM ticket, blame America.

Who to blame next when America bugs out?

52 posted on 05/15/2007 8:37:34 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: jess35
How would it destroy this country. Explain please.

Al-Qaida has absolutely ZERO ability to topple the United States or permanently damage our way of life.

If we are attacked after withdrawing, we will retaliate. If not, we will mind our own business, as the founders intended.

53 posted on 05/15/2007 8:37:46 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!)
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To: jess35

Which is exactly why he is not our candidate. I can’t vote for a guy with two first names.


54 posted on 05/15/2007 8:38:26 PM PDT by Arcy
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To: Desperately Seeking Freedom

“”Do amy of you all actually believe we are being attacked because they hate our freedom? Why aren’t they attacking Monaco and Costa Rica and Switzerland, too?””

They do hate our freedom and see the non-100% Shari’a governments as an extention of American/Western “freedom” in their own way.

You may feel it is a trite comment but this time it actually is correct.

BTW, they think of you as sub-human too. The former placement of troops on Saudi soil is not just seen as a prop to the govt. there, but a defilement.


55 posted on 05/15/2007 8:38:27 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Remember_Salamis

good post.


56 posted on 05/15/2007 8:38:31 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Ron Paul came off like an addled brained half wit from CUNY, what moronicy pill did he take just before the debate?

Does it particularly matter “why” Al Quida does anything? Is this some sort of negotiation that we should be concerned as to what Osama’s motivations are?

Gee, if only we would have listened to Osama and done what he wanted us to do...

Put his head on pike, and be done with him, end of story, let some half wit worry over what he had to say on life on earth.


57 posted on 05/15/2007 8:39:18 PM PDT by padre35 (we are surrounded that simplifies things-Chesty Puller)
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To: Remember_Salamis

“If not, we will mind our own business, as the founders intended.”

Can’t.

Oil.


58 posted on 05/15/2007 8:39:36 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Remember_Salamis

GO RON!


59 posted on 05/15/2007 8:39:49 PM PDT by UncleDick
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To: Remember_Salamis

China has not been attacked because the terrorists know they’d be in for hell if they hit the Chinese. Thank God for Bush and to hell with wussies. If the terrorists knew we’d hit them like China would, they’d leave us alone. Now go be silly somewhere else.


60 posted on 05/15/2007 8:42:04 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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