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"Saying you understand how a nation or group of people could be prevoked into attacking us..."

Based on what Ron Paul said tonight, it is clear to me that he does not in the least "understand" why the militant Islamics have repeatedly attacked the US. He did not offer any evidence that he understands the motivations of the Koranimals. Hint: the repeated attacks against the WTC (1993 and 2001) had nothing to do with US influence in Iran in the 1950's. None of the WTC attackers were Iranian or actively supported by Iran at the time.

President Paul's #1 defense spending priority: Building a time machine so that we can retro-actively prevent the US from supporting the Shah taking over Iran in the 1950's. Face it, he may have good ideas about limited government, etc., but when it comes to the WoT, he's just a nut.

I haven’t been on this thread until now, and I didn’t watch much of the debate (I was not feeling well, for 1 thing).

But I was watching when Ron Paul made these statements, as well as Rudy’s response.

I can’t believe Paul made such comments. They not only sound anti-war, they sound illogical.

Trying to tie it in with the Founders. The Founders (at least Washington, the greatest) DID think it was better to stay away from foreigners, but NOT because they wanted to view them as friends as Paul implied. Washington and others had more a DISTRUST of the foreign nations generally, of what the US would be dragged into. And rightfully so (I’m all for non-entanglement, as Washington espoused in his formerly famous farewell address).

But a) this wasn’t just for fun and b) we didn’t do anything to provoke it and c) we’re there now, so it’s moot, and should finish the job - if we do it right.

Of course I could argue on c) - I say by the Founders’ thoughts all we need to do is bomb the hell out of them and get out. There is no moral obligation to “help” them get on their feet. That only happened since WWII. If you’ve been attacked, there is nothing wrong with attacking back - and leaving without lifting a finger. What we’ve done since WWII is very NICE, not obligatory.

Anyway, bottom line, Ron Paul sounded too moonbatty about this for me. I’m all for kicking out the UN, but these statements about the war were off.