Posted on 05/15/2007 11:55:04 AM PDT by ASC2006
Shock and awe, baby...Shock and awe!
By the way if you want to know how screwed up America’s policy in Iraq has been you might be interesting in knowing that in 2004 U.S. troops arrested Shiek Sattar the leader today of the ASC.
Why did they do that? Because, he had killed another tribal shiek who was allied with al-Qaeda and is believed to have attacked al-Sattar’s followers.
Yes, our policy back then was that screwed up. In early 2004 Sattar and other tribal shieks wanted an alliance with the United States and to form something like we have today with the Anbar Salvation Council. The plan was killed by the CPA, because the CPA refused to negotiate and deal with the tribes which Bremer called undemocratic entities that have no place in the new Iraq.
New information has now emerged indicating that this successful partnership resulted from the rekindling of a US plan first conceived in late 2003, but which was ultimately shot down by CPA and US military officials.
Col. Pat Lang has posted a letter from a friend “CS,” described as a “retired senior Army intelligence officer who served in Iraq in 2003 and 2004”, recounting the failure in early 2004 of what sounds like it could have been a critical pre-emptive measure to secure Anbar before al Qaeda moved in and began causing trouble.
“In the event anyone is interested, unfortunately, here’s what happened in December 2003 to mid-January 2004:
“With help of an Arab-American businessman and translator working at CPA, (we) accumulated 19 Anbar sheiks who were willing to commit their tribes to fighting AQ. They were going to disarm their folks, and with our authorization and assistance (AK-47’s, some money, some vehicles, and a recognition of them - a “Patch” or something), they were going to boot foreigners out, and secure their areas. They would recognize the police, should any be out there. They were going to recognize whatever politicians were in the province. The only thing we offered in addition to getting the funding and equipment was that we had business lined up to come in once they were secure. No kidding, the Arab American had businesses lined up. The money provided by us would allow the tribal chief to start generating economy. Each of the 19 tribal chiefs would get equivalent of $200 per man monthly, starting off with 50 men.”
The plan was shot down after it had worked its way up to the higher levels of the CPA for approval and funding.
As “CS” recalls, in the critical meeting, Sanchez’s policy adviser concluded, “We don’t want to recognize tribes in the new Iraq. The city folk want modern life - not tribes”
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/2622
good points, well stated! PC is definitely putting our brave Warriors needlessly at risk. I sometimes wonder if most of the JAGS are from leftist universities? The ASC has the right idea.. give em all they need.
“There’s no way to cure them, they have to be killed.”
Hasn’t happened and probably won’t. That is why this war will go on far longer than required.
The ASC is doing that right now
“Sheikh Suleiman had strong criticisms for the U.S. military in the Anbar governorate. “In the past we used to capture Al-Qaeda militants and hand them over to Americans, but within two weeks we would see them free again,” he said. “Now, we deal with those we capture.”
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/2726/Dulaim_Chief_Al-Qaeda_is_a_Cancer_in_Iraq
I disagree. Media should have been spoonfed by our military with the same tactics that Palestinians use to gain world sympathy. Make sure they have a handler to “protect” them and lead them to all the spots to generate the story planned in advance that we want aired.
Prisoners should be taken and interrogated for and knowledge as well as used as human shields when investigating the information retrieved from the terrorists.
Works for me! Give the bastards to somebody who has no political encumberances regarding rules of engagement or torture.
Just so long as they promise to force feed them BLT sandwiches right before execution.
“There’s no way to cure them, they have to be killed.” This guy’s got it right!!
Peters and anyone who believes that statement must never have faced a real life, real time life and death struggle where a mistake or random bad luck could get your ass spread over an acre or two...
NOTHING is better than WINNING at war.....
The alternative to winning is defeat and death....
The winner can always be humane and charitible in victory - but only dead or enslaved in defeat...along with ones children ande grandchildren....
I would never trust or follow any leader who viewed VICTORY as of less value than "doing the right thing"...
Once at war -- VICTORY is THE ONLY GOOD THING that can result...
Duh...Americans Soldiers have to follow PC orders from Nancy Pelosi.
Murderers must be killed under tribal law and unless we use this force against terrorism, terrorism will continue to rise."
An excellent strategy!
I really hope this guy is going to be around for a long time. He is the type Iraqi I could sit back with under a palm tree, bang down a few cold ones, and smoke a few good cigars with.
I have been saying the same thing all along. There should quite simply be a campaign to seek out and kill every terrorist possible. No prisoners.
As usual we agree... ~Pandora~
I am dismayed and disheartened that some sheik makes more sense than everyone in washington and in the pentagon. The war is lost because we dont know what we need to do, and if we did know, we would not have the will to do it and yet the right to do it is IN THE TREATIES we signed ages ago, yet we voluntarily give up the rights to do those things. It seems the further into the future you go the stupider mankind gets.
The man knows that death is underrated as a mdeans for dealing with an irregular fanatical enemy.
This is a Clinton legacy. Coddle, not kill the enemy.
More death will be very helpful. ,
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