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The Coming Great Divide in American Political Culture
American Thinker ^
| May 15, 2007
| J.R. Dunn
Posted on 05/15/2007 12:05:56 AM PDT by neverdem
Michael Barone's occasional forays into sociology are always a pleasure to come across. Like the rest of his work, they are concise, well-researched, original, and always marked by clarity. Barone goes where the data takes him, and never seems to have an agenda or an ideological ax to grind.
All this is true of his latest such piece, "
The Realignment of America" which appeared in the
Wall Street Journal on Tuesday, May 8. While going through recent census estimates, Barone discovered a pattern until now overlooked: the old coastal cities, or "Coastal Megalopolises" are steadily becoming dominated by immigrants, while at the same time native Americans are repopulating the thriving heartland cities.
Since 2000, Barone tells us, New York City has seen "a domestic outflow of 8% and an immigrant inflow of 6%". Boston, LA, Washington, and San Diego show similar turnovers. The total outflow of native-born Americans from these cities amounts to 650,000 a year.
At the same time, cities such as Orlando, Charlotte, Phoenix, and Tampa have had dramatic leaps in native-born population, in all cases exceeding 10%, and in that of Las Vegas approaching 20%. So while the coastal cities remain static in population numbers despite the turnover, interior cities are booming.
What does this mean for our political culture? Barone touches on the question, noting that "The economic divide in New York and Los Angeles is starting to look like the economic divide in Mexico City and São Paulo", but doesn't go much further. But if the process continues, the implications will be profound.
If Barone is correct - and there's no reason to believe he isn't - then we're headed for an even more serious social schism between the heartland and the coastal metropolises. The heartland (along with smaller cities and towns on the coasts) will be comprised of melting-pot Americans, the coastal cities a bewildering melange of immigrants from all points of the compass, topped with an exceedingly thin layer of ultra-wealthy natives.
Miami, as it has been for the past thirty years, can serve as an example, with these differences: the Cubans represented a single homogeneous group; they had very good reasons - hatred of Fidelista communism above all - to appreciate American society; and they already understood American culture. This will not necessarily be the case with the new arrivals. Above all, PC and multiculturalism have removed all reason for immigrants to adapt to their new country.
With no particular pressure to fit in, the new immigrants will cling to their traditions, worldviews, and customs, many conflicting with ours and with those of other immigrant groups. NYC's asinine decision to establish a
madrassah in Brooklyn is only the opening wedge - now all hundred-odd ethnicities residing in New York will demand the same treatment, and they will get it. The result will be Babel.
So thank the Archangels you're not living in NYC. But there are implications that may affect us all. Many of these people will have emigrated from failed polities of one type or another. Too many of the countries of Africa and Asia and Latin America, are operating in something resembling free fall, to put it kindly. Government is whoever has the most guns; civil society goes its own way with little reference to governmental activity; whatever political entanglements that can't be avoided are dealt with in the most primitive manner conceivable, through processes characterized by kinship and tribal relations, bribery, and paternalism. It's those conditions many people were fleeing when they came to the United States.
But it's those same conditions that, even with the best will in the world, they are going to bring with them. People cannot shed elements of their culture the same way they may change the dishdash for slacks and shirt. They are going to look for the Big Man. They are going to wonder whom to bribe, and how much. They are going to gravitate toward whoever operates in the manner closest to their country, region, or tribe. They will, without the least intending to, recreate in the U.S. the same situation they were fleeing from back home. With the added complication that dozens of other ethnicities will also be trying to grab the political levers to ensure that things are done their way, all at once.
It's difficult to see how this is particularly congruent with American democracy as we understand it today. Nor that there is any way to make it compatible with any form of democratic practice. So something will have to give. And it seems likely that what will give will be the members of America's sole native criminal class, the politicians.
What politician could resist such an opportunity? Masses of helpless, ignorant, and needy people requiring guidance, requiring a protector, requiring a leader. We've seen this before. Consider how the black vote has been manipulated by Democratic politicians since the days of the New Deal. Multiply that by a few dozen ethnicities, and the magnitude of the problem becomes manifest. (What's that? New immigrants can't vote? Do you really think so?)
But let's not be unfair to Democrats. If you think the GOP would hesitate a minute to leap into the same role, your introduction to practical politics remains before you. All the same, the Democrats are the prime suspects here, seeing how they control the surviving political machines in cities up and down the Eastern seaboard. Many of these machines have been in operation since the last big immigration wave early in the 20th century. Adapting them to the new conditions will simply be a matter of integrating the new arrivals into the places once held by Italians and Irishmen.
But there's another factor at work as well - even as the pols are gathering in the new flock, the new flock will be exerting pressure on them to conform more to the style that they're used to. How are they going to resist becoming something along the lines of a tribal chieftain? Many of them think of themselves in similar terms in any case. And with that shift will come a level of corruption that will make New Jersey or Louisiana look like the Palace of the Just. If you think that New York resembles a third-world country now... you ain't seen nothing yet.
At the same time, we'll have a native-born American population that has reconnected with its roots, and very likely, after years of dealing with terrorism, undergone a resurgence of patriotism, much as Great Britain did in the course of the lengthy Napoleonic Wars. (And, as Barone points out, will have grown more Republican, too.) This will represent quite a contrast to the teeming multilingual coasts, and create inevitable and unavoidable grounds for conflict.
We can dismiss any thoughts of civil war. Conflicts in advanced societies aren't settled that way, and a situation in which isolated urban areas are opposed to the country at large doesn't lend itself to such an outcome. But there are plenty of other ugly possibilities. (And some benefits as well - the coastal cities, which wield far too much influence today, will find their sway over the rest of the country dwindling, no doubt a good thing.) Most of the downside factors will involve native politicians released from any responsibility to the population of the country as a whole, a nightmare in and of itself. Corruption will grow to proportions not easy to imagine today, particularly as it takes on an international dimension.
Mayors, representatives, possibly even governors and senators, will be running their own sub rosa foreign policies in order to fulfill the wishes of their foreign-born constituencies. Foreign groups and organizations of all types -- religious, political, social, and criminal -- having no current connection to American society will establish strong beachheads by manipulating and playing off native politicians. This will create new challenges for law enforcement, particularly as it shades into foreign intelligence. Questions of national security will begin to take in the policies of the administration the next town over.
Potential solutions are less than obvious. Education of new immigrants as to what the American system is and how it works would appear to be the key, but who would handle that? With the educational system as it exists, enraptured with the doctrines of multiculturalism, the cure would be worse than the disease.
It may in the end merely be a matter of muddling through, of using law enforcement and social pressure to hold the fort while the new immigrant masses ever so slowly adapt themselves to this country (or, rather, their children and grandchildren do). It doesn't seem like much, but it may be the best we can hope for.
Of course, we could always return to a sane immigration policy. I have yet to hear what would be wrong with that.
J.R. Dunn is contributing editor of American Thinker.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barone; demographics; immigrantlist; immigration; multiculturalism
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posted on
05/15/2007 12:06:03 AM PDT
by
neverdem
To: neverdem
Too many of the countries of Africa and Asia and Latin America, are operating in something resembling free fall, to put it kindly. Government is whoever has the most guns;Uh, this is true everywhere. We hide it a little better in America. But the stamp on every IRS 1040 is put there by a gun.
We can dismiss any thoughts of civil war. Conflicts in advanced societies aren't settled that way, and a situation in which isolated urban areas are opposed to the country at large doesn't lend itself to such an outcome.
It lends itself to civil war just fine if NY and LA decide to impose their values on the rest of us. As it will be democrats running the show, they will be unable to resist.
To: ModelBreaker
In the Russian Civil War, the Reds who controlled Leningrad and Moscow made war on the Russian heartland. The urbanites stirred up the agriculturalists so that they could seize their guns and their land. Already in California, the cities have seized water that used to go to the farmers.
To: neverdem
This scenario assumes a stable economy will continue. Not possible if the cultural forces begin to fight over the government’s largesse. No one can foresee the future of the country if the social fabric deteriorates into chaos.
To: Misterioso
Not possible if the cultural forces begin to fight over the governments largesse. No one can foresee the future of the country if the social fabric deteriorates into chaos. People are mostly content when they are well fed, fat and happy so to speak. If we see disruptions in that, the chaos you speak of becomes more likely. Yet there's not a compelling sense of discontent presently as a disconnect from political reality. We see it, we read about it, but it's like the war...so far away that it doesn't really impact us.
The exception would be taxes and our wallets, but even that seems to be minimized to the point where no one's storming the capital.
But yeah, destabilize the economy and quality of life and people will feel they have something to fight for. Toss in the current level of desensitization towards violence and we can anticipate a bloody mess.
The socialists will receive what they so greatly deserve should it come to that.
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posted on
05/15/2007 1:53:34 AM PDT
by
Caipirabob
(Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
To: neverdem; Jim Robinson
A very sobering piece on the threat posed by open borders, chain immigration, and unassimilated residents (both legal and illegal).
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posted on
05/15/2007 3:29:40 AM PDT
by
George W. Bush
(Election Math For Dummies: GOP รท Rudi = Hillary)
To: neverdem
“If Barone is correct - and there’s no reason to believe he isn’t”
Well good, I’d hate to have to think.... More nonsense. Let’s build a castle and calll it Pat Bucahnan Land.
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posted on
05/15/2007 3:38:26 AM PDT
by
Porterville
(God is love and Dog is evol)
To: neverdem
Most of these same arguments were used more than 100 years ago when the first waves of Eastern Europeans arrived and all that happened was that the second, and especially the third, generations became Americans just like you and me.
Of course the educational system in those days inculcated Americanism and patriotism, which is not so true today.
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posted on
05/15/2007 3:42:00 AM PDT
by
metesky
("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
To: Caipirabob
“the socialists will receive what they so greatly deserve......( should it come to that.)”
my fantasy.
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posted on
05/15/2007 4:39:05 AM PDT
by
ripley
To: neverdem
Dunn's articulate foreboding has the ring of truth--unfortunately. If it in fact comes to pass, the American people be lucky if if they can muddle through.
What the morons of the Left can't grasp, and what their sociopathic leaders don't want them to grasp, is that the alternative to America offered by the Left is the Law of the Jungle.
Of course, as Dunn observes, corrupt, sociopathic politicians will be delighted! In their dreams, they imagine Imperial Rome with themselves as Octavius, Tiberius, or Caligula--or, if not that, then Batista or Stroessner--or, if necessary, Saddam Hussein--or Idi Amin--or, what the hell, Pol Pot--more successful versions, of course.
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posted on
05/15/2007 5:01:31 AM PDT
by
Savage Beast
(Of all that I have accomplished, the thing that I am proudest of is that I have a good heart. ~Oprah)
To: Misterioso
“No one can foresee the future of the country if the social fabric deteriorates into chaos.”
You are correct! Unfortunately, too many studies are based on one’s perceived notion of a stable future. I suspect they do that to ease public fears and expectations.
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posted on
05/15/2007 5:24:30 AM PDT
by
wolfcreek
(DON'T MESS WITH A NATION IN NEED OF MEDICATION !)
To: neverdem
All right, all you Interior Boomtowners! Get back into that bed and start reproducing! No more two-child families! Do your duty!
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posted on
05/15/2007 5:25:10 AM PDT
by
Savage Beast
(Of all that I have accomplished, the thing that I am proudest of is that I have a good heart. ~Oprah)
To: neverdem
We can dismiss any thoughts of civil war. Conflicts in advanced societies aren't settled that way, I suggest that the author needs to reacquaint himself with history.
Civil wars are fought in advanced societies by definition.
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posted on
05/15/2007 6:24:04 AM PDT
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: redgolum; Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ApesForEvolution; archy; backhoe; Badray; t_skoz; Becki; ...
To: redgolum; Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ApesForEvolution; archy; backhoe; Badray; t_skoz; Becki; ...
To: neverdem
Mayors, representatives, possibly even governors and senators, will be running their own sub rosa foreign policies in order to fulfill the wishes of their foreign-born constituencies. Foreign groups and organizations of all types -- religious, political, social, and criminal -- having no current connection to American society will establish strong beachheads by manipulating and playing off native politicians.Already seeing this in MA, CA... Durbin/Pelosi/Richardson forays into freelance diplomacy. Electing Republican presidents will mean nothing when most states are run by Dhimmicrat warlords.
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posted on
05/15/2007 9:16:55 AM PDT
by
johnny7
("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
To: neverdem
Smash the education establishment, using the fracturing culture as political leverage to let locals do things their own way. Then push merit against multiculturalism in the resulting disorganized and anti-hierarchical marketplace for educational ideas.
This wins with the heartland by allowing them to protect their culture from the high handedness of city elites and from the alien populism of the new city masses. It will also win with much of those new city masses, by promising those alert among them a way ahead of the next ethnic group over, and also by allowing them to keep more of their culture, instead of assimilating completely to a bland and unattractive PC thought-police.
The losers will be the left-leaning elites in the cities, who will see their would-be charges stolen away from them on issues of thought, whatever alliance might remain between them on issues of economics. And even that paternalistic alliance of convenience - which depends on the elites taxing the remaining native middle class in their areas to buy votes - will fray as that middle class dwindles, and the full weight of their paternalism shows up in their property tax bills. That will drive more middle class people to the heartland and southwest, where sun and retirement beckon anyway.
The political failure in the article is to accept present leftist domination of education as written in stone. All it takes to change it is political vision from the right, and a well crafted charter and choice campaign to smash the existing education establishment.
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posted on
05/15/2007 9:33:16 AM PDT
by
JasonC
To: Caipirabob
The entitlement programs consume almost half of our budget. They are on automatic pilot. By 2030, there will be 70 million Americans of retirement age--twice as many as today. Social Security pays more than $450 billion in benefits each year. If nothing is done, by 2060, the combination of Social Security and Medicare will account for more than 71 percent of the federal budget.
Starting next year, the SS "surplus" starts declining, which means more revenue must be found elsewhere. And by 2017, SS starts paying out more than it is taking in moving from a cash cow to a black hole. Medicare is in worse shape and is consuming more and more general revenue. Medicaid is breaking the states.
Since 2000, we have added 20 million people and we will add another 63 million in the next 23 years, or the equivalent of the entire population of the UK. We have added 100 million people since 1970. 3/4 of that increase comes from immigration, legal and illegal. One in every four residents of California is foreign born.
We are headed for a major train wreck in the next 10 or 20 years as we descend into a third world country.
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posted on
05/15/2007 9:34:40 AM PDT
by
kabar
To: neverdem
“We can dismiss any thoughts of civil war...”Says who?
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posted on
05/15/2007 10:12:24 AM PDT
by
Thombo2
To: neverdem
While the just of this article is correct the outcome is not so assured. I have an informal survey I ask local foreign born contractors and store owners about who will take over their business. All of them have told me their kids have become lazy local urbanites chasing sex drugs and music, the same as the majority of all teenagers. None of them want to take over their parents business and work that hard. With todays internet and music and pop culture it only takes one generation and the old ethnicity is gone.
I am an American optimist; I think this is really nothing new under the sun. We will survive and we will overcome the bad parts of foreign cultures and enjoy the good parts. The only risk is Islam and the Islamist populations that refuse to change.
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posted on
05/15/2007 10:28:02 AM PDT
by
pwatson
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