[Huber]

Long, but worthwhile...

[acapesket]

HOW dumb can you be to believe that the Islamonazi’s are not here, there, and everywhere... to procreate you out of existence!
HELLO EUROPE! Wake up to Eurabia!

[glorgau]

Jenkins notes that “the vast majority of Americans who rioted in the nation’s cities in the 1960s were Christians, but nobody referred to them as ‘Christian’ riots.”

Perhaps because they weren't shouting "God is Great" as they did whatever it was they did during riots?

[Clemenza]

Euro-peons have got to understand that, just because a shrinking majority of this country has white skin, we are NOT THE SAME! They can take their global warming and "human rights" obsessions and shove them up their pasty duppahs.

American Exceptionalism, American Civilization!

[familyop]

Yes, Europeans should relax and know that they’re doing the right thing by dragging our US leaders into continuing to appease Iran. They can go on reassuring themselves by repeating that Iran is only after Israel.

Oil will go way up for a short time soon or for a long time later. Take your pick. And the dollar must fall to equalize with foreign currencies.

Fellow Americans, after Iran has nukes mounted, have some popcorn and watch the Euro-show.

[Cacique]

Europe isn't dying, it's been dead sometime now.

All this talk of moderates. Yes the moderates always win. Remember the Nazis? The radicals wanted to shoot you. The moderates were much more compassionate, they knew the stress it put poor SS men under to have to shoot people all day.. They wanted to gas people. Yes the compassionate moderates won the day. Isn't that wonderfull? they were more efficient and humane.

Those Buffoons in Europe have learned absolutely nothing from history. They will end up where such fools belong, in the garbage dump of history. But hey, I am sure the Muslims are environmentally friendly and rather than leave bodies behind they will see that they all go out the chimney.

On the other hand, they may go into recycling. Soylent Green anyone?

[tarheelswamprat]

Philip Jenkins is whistling past the graveyard. Mark Steyn and the others mentioned are much more in synch with the reality of the situation.

[omnivore]

Islam is much less tolerant of secularity than either Christianity or Judaism (or nearly any other religion) is. It doesn't "play nice" with competing or alternative belief systems. To imagine it does is folly.

Also, a lot of Europeans are still bigoted against other groups, which doesn't help. For all the anti-French jokes, etc., people in the US are much more enlightened about the necessity of melting-pot style inclusion of immigrants into our communities. To the extent that the Euros encourage the ghettoization of their Islamic minorities, instead of integration into decent European societies, they'll be making a bad problem even worse.

[no dems]

I wrote Europe off until recently when I began watching GodTV on Direct TV, channel 365.

Europe is returning to traditional values. There is a real revival among the youth. Also, France just elected a Conservative President; that’s got to speak for something.

[John Locke]

Economically, Europe will continue to need large numbers of immigrants, particularly to support its welfare states with aging native populations.

I'm sorry, but this is absolute rubbish. Let's do the math. France, for example, has a Moslem immigrant population of about 8%. Of course, the majority are welfare bums and this demographic as a whole is a net drain on the economy, but let's be charitable, and assume they all work just as hard as the native French.

Which is how hard? The legal maximum working week in France is 35 hours, and the average is 32. Raise that average by just 8% - from 32 to 35 - and the natives are now doing all the work by themselves, with no need of immigrants.

Much the same calculation applies to the rest of Western Europe. The supposed need for immigrants is a pure myth, created by the elites whose hidden agenda requires an influx of barbarians.

The same is true of the barbarian invasion of the US and its promotion by US elites, of course.

[Verloona Ti]

according to Ramadan, Muslims must abandon the ancient division between dar al-Islam and dar-al harb, the world of Islam and the world of war. Rather, the non-Muslim world should be viewed as dar al-da’wa, the world of proclamation in which Muslims spread their teachings by peaceful example. Jenkins observes, “For Muslims to accept these principles in France would mark a milestone; applying them to many Muslim nations would constitute a revolution.” Jenkins returns again to his theme of complexity: “Yet the religious situation is much more complex than it might appear. While radicals and militants flourish, their opponents are numerous and significant, and so are the historical forces working against extremism.”

That would mean repudiating the literal translations of too many verses in the koran, as well as too many hadiths. Could it happen ? Maybe...anything's possible...But "the gates of interpretation are closed" and have been since the conquest by the Seljuk (then nonmoslem) Turks. That conquest was considered proof that allah was punishing them for the more liberal, less literal interpretation of the more bloodthirsty verses in the koran, among other things. There really was a time when islam was reasonably civilized, even in comparison with Christianity-but the culture shock of the Turkish conquest ended those days. Can this change? Maybe, but at this moment in time it's hard to see how, when reinterpreting the koran less literally and less "bloodthirst-ly" has been explicitly forbidden for centuries. But one must wish Ramadan and those like him well.