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Lightning spurs hurricanes - Link shows storms in Africa can cause havoc in the United States.
news@nature.com ^ | 11 May 2007 | Harvey Leifert

Posted on 05/14/2007 12:53:43 AM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 05/14/2007 12:53:45 AM PDT by neverdem
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2 posted on 05/14/2007 1:18:17 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Reminds me of the Quantum Weather Butterfly from Pratchett’s fantasy novels:

The Quantum Weather Butterfly is a butterfly which has evolved the curious trait of weather control. This is used as a defence mechanism and a sexual characteristic. The insect is yellow, with Mandelbrot patterned wings: these wings have an infinite wing perimeter, but only a finite area. Its classification is Papilio tempestae, and it appears mainly in Interesting Times. It is based on the illustration of chaos theory that the air movement caused by a butterfly flapping its wings in America could eventually cause a storm in China.


3 posted on 05/14/2007 1:59:44 AM PDT by Dutchguy
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To: neverdem

Somebody call Owlgore, Hitlery, the ACLU, the enviro-nazis. We must ban lightning or we’ll all die!


4 posted on 05/14/2007 2:03:34 AM PDT by Budge (<>< Sit Nomen Domini benedictum. <><)
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What creates an Atlantic hurricane? The most devastating ones are spurred by intense thunderstorms in the Ethiopian highlands, according to new research.
Ah, but the Ethiopian thunderstorms are caused by smokestacks and auto exhaust in North America, so you see, heads they win, tails we lose. Global warming is the new Lysenkoism. Thanks NeverDem.
 
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5 posted on 05/14/2007 4:48:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 11, 2007.)
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6 posted on 05/14/2007 4:49:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 11, 2007.)
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So if we simply buy eastern Africa and turn it into a desert the United States would never have hurricanes? How tough can that be? Most of the Somalis are all ready here!
7 posted on 05/14/2007 5:06:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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Lightning spurs hurricanes

I'm confused. I thought it was Bush's fault.

8 posted on 05/14/2007 5:07:14 AM PDT by twhitak
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Lightning spurs hurricanes
I'm confused. I thought it was Bush's fault.
LOL!

But you see, it was - Rove knew this all along, and he created the humongous African thunderstorm which spawned Katrina. And how did he do that? SunkenCiv has it right: "Ethiopian thunderstorms are caused by smokestacks and auto exhaust in North America."

Rove, the SOB, drove an SUV!


9 posted on 05/14/2007 5:32:02 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: neverdem
Link shows storms in Africa can cause havoc in the United States.

Shouldn't this be in breaking news?

10 posted on 05/14/2007 5:33:50 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Applewood smoked bacon is the new chipotle.)
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To: neverdem

Oh man !!!! Say it ain’t so. I so expected it to be blamed on all those helicopters we’ve got in the military!


11 posted on 05/14/2007 7:00:46 AM PDT by Jeffrey_D. (The only thing I love more than my FreeperFriends is my God, Family and Country !!!!)
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We must demand reparations!


12 posted on 05/14/2007 7:04:48 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Dutchguy

The butterfly theory does not apply to a sufficiently damped system such as earth’s meteorological system. It might apply to an unstable system such as a star or a nuclear explosive device at the point where the reaction blooms into the new regime. That point might be called the critical point or the tipping point. The Mandelbrot butterfly theory might be applied to the coastline of Alaska, which I maintain is infinite or perhaps indefinite down to the Planck length. The Universe itself appears to be finite and unbounded, which might be confusing Poincare topology with Mandelbrot iteration.


13 posted on 05/14/2007 8:13:13 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: RightWhale

thats easy for you to say...


14 posted on 05/14/2007 9:49:22 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Dutchguy

The butterfly effect?


15 posted on 05/14/2007 10:51:23 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: neverdem

Hmmm. OK. Let’s see now - lightening creates ozone. We have severely limited or outright banned ozone-depleting substances here in the U.S. Therefore, if hurricanes are on the increase it is directly the fault of those who pushed for the ban on ODS’s...


16 posted on 05/14/2007 12:07:49 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Tradition is merely a group effort to prevent the unexpected)
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To: SunkenCiv

Once upon a time they caused the Nile to flood in the summer, now they cause hurricanes. Dang those SUV-driving Ethiopians!


17 posted on 05/14/2007 2:18:33 PM PDT by Berosus ("There is no beauty like Jerusalem, no wealth like Rome, no depravity like Arabia."--the Talmud)
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“give researchers a heads-up about when a nasty hurricane might form, weeks before it could make landfall in the United States”

Heh. It’s not like the strike us by surprise, you know.
The stock market is accused of predicting more recessions than occur. Can you imagine getting hurricane warnings ‘weeks before’ based on a lot of lightning in Ethiopia? Har.


18 posted on 05/14/2007 3:45:11 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping.


19 posted on 05/14/2007 8:20:42 PM PDT by GOPJ ( When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits--not animals."- Churchill)
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To: RightWhale
The butterfly theory does not apply to a sufficiently damped system such as earth’s meteorological system.

Speak for yourself. Phoenix is anything *but* damp! ;-)

Seriously, what is being damped here, and what is doing the damping?

(...by analogy to driven pendulums w/friction, etc.)

Cheers!

20 posted on 05/14/2007 11:03:51 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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