Posted on 05/13/2007 3:04:17 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3
“Principal Catherine Stephens declined to say whether the staff members involved would face disciplinary action, but said the situation “involved poor judgment.”
The vacancies should begin with the principal. Wonder what she uses for brains? What a terrible thing to needlessly put 6 graders through. How long is it going to take the public to realize those heading up and teaching in public schools are idiots?
CEP aka Circular Error Probability means that half the ICBM warheads launched will come down within the CEP and half will come down someplace else.
The someplace else will, on the average, generally be closer to the target than randomly scattered along the trajectory between the launch site and the target, with a generous side vector.
So, if the NYC metropolitan area is intended to be hit by 20-40 ICBM warheads, the Soviets would have sent 40-80. And a fair amount of the 20-40 which missed would have dribbled down near NYC.
So exit82 was right.
90% of the time lawsuits over the infliction of emotional distress are bull crap. Here we have a candidate for that other 10%.
I teach facts. The Constitution is a factual document. But it has been interpreted differently over the years. Children- 18-year old children- DO have the ability to learn from the Constitution. They can decide for themselves just exactly what implied powers are and how they may be derived and used, or whether or not Don Imus' comments are considered free speech, for example. Hell, we're allowing them to vote so they better be learning to deal with these things.
You say you doubt that my liberal colleagues are "scrupulous about excluding their views from their lectures and class discussions." I agree 100%. But it goes back to the original reason for my reply- not ALL of us are bad teachers and not ALL of us are enablers. We're not all part of the NEA and we're not all part of a big leftist conspiracy. I have battled colleagues before and will do it again. I am a teacher and I am not what you described.
How is that a 'downside'? Being able to fire incompetent people is an UPSIDE!
Looks like this school is already suffering from a lack of adult supervision.
What would have been appropriate is for one of these kids to have taken a .38 out of their lunch box and fired a round through the “hooded idiot teacher” pretending to be a gunman threatening to kill these students.
True. These morons should be terminated at the least for their terror attack (at least in the mind of the kids. Try this in a bank and see what the authorities would think...
Our schools are run by idiots.
The principal can’t even say if the culprits will face disciplinary action.
And the actual culprits have got to be dumber than crap.
1) they do something obviously stupid.
2) Of the bunch, not a single one has the sense to stop it
3) Want to guess how many sensitivity seminars these idiots have been to, where they were told a million times to be nice to everyone , to never ever say even a word to upset anyone let alone a child...for them to pull that in that kind of environment takes a very special kind of idiocy.
It may or may not have been conducted ineptly; really can’t tell from the biased journalism. But it is not a crime nor do I wish to criminalize such behavior as a crime. If what Mary Winkler did was manslaughter this is nothing more than a lovetap. Why be so quick to criminalize every behavior you disagree with?
How do you know these individuals are liberals? This is Tennessee. Not all teachers here are liberal Democrats.
Had coaches scare me; yell at me. Didn’t always like it. When it was done right it brought out the best in the whole team.
No kid or animal was hurt in the making of the fake gun attack. I asked my 12 year old daughter and she said once it was over she would have said “Good one, you got me.” Read the whole article.
I'd say it's a downside because people can be fired with flimsy evidence or without being charged with any wrong doing. In this case, it appears from the principal's own statement that these teachers messed up. But in other cases, it's not so good. For example, students can lie and accuse teachers of misconduct - and the teacher can be fired with no redress. In that case, it's bad.
not ALL of us are bad teachers and not ALL of us are enablers.
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The entire premise of government run and owned school is, and always has been, fundamentally flawed. Government schools can NOT be reformed, even if this premise did not exist. Why? Because liberal/Marxists have thoroughly infected the entire educational-industrial-complex.
Therefore, all people ( good and bad) who contribute to the government schools, ( parents, teachers, and principals) assist in propping up this fundamentally flawed system.
The above is NOT a **personal** insult. It is a general statement about the **entire** and global construct of government schooling **all** the people ( in a global sense) who assist in its operation. .
I don't recall pinging this article out. If this is a re-ping, please forgive me.
I personally don’t doubt that you’re well-meaning and do what you can to provide quality education. And I’m sure that most others here believe that also. And I’ll even concede that sometimes you and others like you have some great individual success stories. But the system that you work for undermines your best efforts, and the occasional individual accomplishments are offset by the institutional failure.
Seems like teachers are immune to many of the consequences of illegal behavior the rest of the real world faces.
Wow. My heroes.
One of the teachers in our local public school was heard saying *If they’d let teachers carry, there’d be 32 less dead students at VA Tech. Teachers should be able to carry.*
Course, many of the kids get together for hunting before and after school hours during hunting season and *ahem* don’t have time go take their rifles home before school, so they sit in their trunks.
BTW, this is NYS.
The teacher looked at me puzzled and I explained that if these kids didn't shoot the occasional deer, they wouldn't see any meat this winter. I stuck my head back in and said "Okay, no one is in trouble, but how many of you brought a rifle to the bus stop this morning in case you saw a deer?" Out of 10 hands, 8 went up (including the 2 girls). I told the new teacher this is how it is in the country. If they get a deer, they throw it on the farm truck, go back home, dress it, hang it, and school doesn't happen that day. If they don't get anything, they park the farm truck on the side of the road, toss the rifle in it and come to school. That's just how it is.
She never connected well with the kids that year - she said to me they were dirty, smelled funny, and weren't focused on their education. Well yeah, you get dirty when you wake up at 4 to feed the animals, you smell funny when you heat your house with wood, and you aren't focused when you are worried if you are going to be evicted because your dad is the farm's caretaker and he's home drunk...again. She left mid-year and went back to California. Probably best for every one.
And comes the day when civilization as we know it is over, guess who the survivors will be.
We were about 50 miles from the city, doing the drills at least twice a month. I remember hearing one of my teachers say to another, "Aren't you going to get down?" The other one said, "No, because when it happens there won't be anything left anyway, no food, no water, a few horribly mangled survivors, and I don't want to be one of them."
I was terrified for years afterwards. LOL! Talk about scary stories, no wonder so many "Boomers" are basket cases.
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