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To: admiralsn

not ALL of us are bad teachers and not ALL of us are enablers.

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The entire premise of government run and owned school is, and always has been, fundamentally flawed. Government schools can NOT be reformed, even if this premise did not exist. Why? Because liberal/Marxists have thoroughly infected the entire educational-industrial-complex.

Therefore, all people ( good and bad) who contribute to the government schools, ( parents, teachers, and principals) assist in propping up this fundamentally flawed system.

The above is NOT a **personal** insult. It is a general statement about the **entire** and global construct of government schooling **all** the people ( in a global sense) who assist in its operation. .


313 posted on 05/14/2007 4:50:15 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime
All Catholic priests are either bad priests or they are enablers. That is the same argument you make, applied to the Catholic church instead of to public education. There is a fundamentally flawed system that allowed hundreds of priests to prey on innocent victims over many years. So anyone in the priesthood is either bad or they enable the system.

You and I both know that's not true. There are some bad ones and some good ones. I submit to you that the same really is true in education- there are bad teachers and there are good teachers. And I agree the education system is flawed, but it does not make me or anyone else in my profession who is attempting to change it a bad or enabling teacher. Claim all you want that this wasn't a **personal** insult, but you singled me out when you said "There are only 2 kinds of government teachers: 1) Bad Teachers and 2) Enablers." Perhaps you meant to refer to the system in general and not teachers specifically. If you did not, then it was an attack on who I am, and I have to consider it personal.

There are no hard feelings about it, don't get me wrong. I am just the type of person who will defend myself when pushed. You may not believe me, but I have absolutely no problem with homeschooling, when it is done correctly. Same with church schools. I have seen, however, many kids (I can name 5 off the top of my head) who have personally left my class to be homeschooled, only to return again within the year, each one the worse for having experienced it. The reason? The parent didn't have a clue what to do and sometimes even used it as an excuse to keep the kid home so THEY wouldn't be punished for the kid not going to school. There have been two failed local attempts to form church-run schools, and they failed for one main reason- lack of parental involvement. I KNOW this is not the norm, and I am willing to admit that it is the exception to the rule. I guess, for those reasons, I do not want to paint a broad picture of ALL homeschool/church teachers being "bad."

I have never been the type of person to give in and throw in the towel very easily. I refuse to believe that my profession, the profession that has produced some very bright and talented children- I wish I could share personal stories, but I know you get the point- is evil and that it is hopeless to change it. If we all abandon it, then it IS hopeless to change. But I refuse to abandon it.

326 posted on 05/14/2007 6:37:02 PM PDT by admiralsn (An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep. --Asian Proverb)
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