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Giuliani Reaffirms Pro-Choice Stance
Associated Press via Washington Post ^ | 5-11-7 | By JOE STINEBAKER

Posted on 05/11/2007 11:17:53 AM PDT by Petronski

HOUSTON -- Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani on Friday urged conservatives to look past his support for abortion rights, arguing that his divergence on the issue should not disqualify him from being the party's GOP nominee.

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Describing his belief that abortion was "morally wrong," Giuliani said he has opposed it all his life. But he said he believes the decision should ultimately be left to individuals and that their decisions should be respected.

"In a country like ours ... I believe you have to respect their viewpoint and give them a level of choice. I would grant women the right to make that choice," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; elections; giuliani; rudyistoast
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To: PghBaldy
It doesn’t make sense without an explanation such as yours.

Thank you. Rudy has got to have had hordes of people come up to him over the last couple of decades telling him that abortion is no big deal to them. He has apparently concluded that most Republican voters feel this way, surely he's heard it in every big city he's visited.

It's not the only thing he's out of touch with America on.

61 posted on 05/11/2007 1:04:24 PM PDT by hunter112
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To: hunter112

“It’s not the only thing he’s out of touch with America on.”

This is a critical nuance! Not every politician is able to foray from state to federal management.

I’d say it’s crucially astute of you to note that he’s not perhaps as able to make the jump as he’d like people to believe!


62 posted on 05/11/2007 1:09:22 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Petronski
"We understand how to respect each other's differences," he said.

Exactly so. You and your pro-death buddies run for public office, and we turn out en masse to vote for somebody else.

63 posted on 05/11/2007 1:10:36 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: garv

I’m not sure its a ‘lie’ as much as a conundrum for him.

Don’t construe that as a ‘defense’ btw. Just what I’m thinking as I watch him continue to squirm.

I think Guiliani is a decent man. I just don’t trust him enough to vote for him in the Presidential election cycle.

As I’ve noted before, when Rudy gets bored, he gets himself into trouble - personally and professionally and politically.

As we’ve been seeing for quite some time.


64 posted on 05/11/2007 1:20:54 PM PDT by Badeye (If you can't take a response, don't post in an open forum is my advice.)
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To: American Quilter

Yeah its always refreshing to hear a candidate come straight out and say. “yes, Im for a womans right to scrape life out of her uterus”..I mean its written plain as day there..in the..Constitution..!?!? right?.../s (of course-regards)


65 posted on 05/11/2007 1:24:35 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Petronski

The smell of pandering approaches the stench of a cesspool ...


66 posted on 05/11/2007 1:35:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Petronski
Abortion aside (if I may make such a bold pretense), this statement speaks volumes about this man's way of thinking about government:

"I would grant women the right to make that choice," he said.

67 posted on 05/11/2007 2:30:51 PM PDT by Lexinom (http://www.gohunter08.comĀ)
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To: Petronski

nail...coffin...


68 posted on 05/11/2007 2:43:21 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Petronski

Is he the Dem’s stealth candidate?


69 posted on 05/11/2007 3:05:29 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Thank You Prayer Warriors for Praying for me & my poor little lungs!)
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To: pissant

Is he. Or is he just typically McCain and obtuse on the subject?

Last time I knew, his answers to all the right questions placed him as pro-choice. I think Giuliani’s candor is just providing McCain with a smokescreen.


70 posted on 05/11/2007 5:11:21 PM PDT by NCSteve (Trying to take something off the Internet is like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.)
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To: BigTom85

Well there is only one way he would get mine ,and thats if its between He and Hillary or Obama.

Better a half-assed liberal than a full fledged card carrying one.

I’m still waiting for Fred.


71 posted on 05/11/2007 5:18:08 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: Spiff

Please double-check my excerpting compliance.
Just a suggestion...when I find an AP story on a source that must be excerpted, I go find another source for the AP story so that I can post the whole thing and not have to excerpt it. You can usually go to Google News and find dozens of sites hosting the same AP story and use one of those. That way, we get to read and archive on FR the entire story and we don’t give any free traffic to fifth column, anti-American dinosaur MSM sites like the Washington Post.
***Good idea, Spiff. I’m copying it here so that I don’t have to remember who wrote it when I need it in the future.


72 posted on 05/11/2007 5:21:50 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: garv
When he makes statements claiming he's always opposed abortion and thinks it's morally wrong how am I supposed to square that with his record.

It's simple. He's always hated it. But he's also always thought there was nothing more important. What's so hard to reconcile here? :P

73 posted on 05/11/2007 5:36:54 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
Pro-Life PING

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

74 posted on 05/11/2007 6:00:39 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: Petronski
Describing his belief that abortion was "morally wrong," Giuliani said he has opposed it all his life. But he said he believes the decision should ultimately be left to individuals and that their decisions should be respected.

How can anyone not vote for a man who displays such a superior intellect and ability to reason as this? (do I really need a sarcasm tag?)

75 posted on 05/11/2007 6:28:40 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Graymatter

That struck me too. Again and again, Giuliani proves with his language and actions that he believes absolute power resides with the State, except for the things the State explicitly allows us to do.


76 posted on 05/11/2007 6:51:19 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: Badeye; American Quilter

Nah, he’s still trying to con us. He claims that he’s against it personally, but he believes in respecting opposing viewpoints and “granting” personal choices. Yet in NYC, he didn’t even respect very minor opposing viewpoints, for example, the views of people who keep ferrets as pets. He couldn’t even “grant” choices as minor as that.

From what we know of Giuliani, if he hates something personally, he will use the full power of the State to criminalize it. If he does not support doing this with abortion, we can conclude that he does not personally hate it, and never has.

Not that this wasn’t obvious anyway, based on his six donations to Planned Parenthood. Oh, that’s right — those donations were to support adoption counselling. /s


77 posted on 05/11/2007 7:01:26 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: ellery; Spiff; Reagan Man; Liz; TommyDale; Jim Robinson
From what we know of Giuliani, if he hates something personally, he will use the full power of the State to criminalize it.

Outstanding point.

Heck, look at Rudy's bile-filled outburst at a ferret owner that we've seen posted here. The more I look at Rudy's campaign to keep ferrets illegal in NYC, the more that stands as the ultimate metaphor of Rudy's neurotic and narcissistic personality.

78 posted on 05/11/2007 7:05:37 PM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: Froufrou

He’s not even been in state management. At least candidates such as senators have to represent entire states, including urban and rural voters with their own particular viewpoints. As diverse as NYC is, it can also be a very parochial place where residents share very similar viewpoints on a great number of things. The distance between municipal government and federal government is vast.


79 posted on 05/11/2007 7:18:34 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: Petronski

If Giuliani was a candidate in the 1850s...

Julieannie Tries to Clarify Slavery Stance
Candidate Says He Is Personally Opposed but Supports Plantation Owner’s Right to Choose

HOUSTON — Republican presidential candidate Rudolf Julieannie on Friday urged abolitionists to look past his support for slavery rights, arguing that his divergence on the issue should not disqualify him from being the party’s nominee.

Describing his belief that slavery was “morally wrong,” Giuliani said he has opposed it all his life. But he said he believes the decision should ultimately be left to individuals and that their decisions should be respected.

“In a country like ours ... I believe you have to respect their viewpoint and give them a level of choice. I would grant property owner’s the right to make that choice,” he said.


80 posted on 05/11/2007 7:29:05 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Don't blame Illinois for Pelosi, we elected ROSKAM)
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