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Poe (R-IN) blasted for quoting KKK leader during war speech
Hearst News Service via Houston Chronicle ^ | May 10, 2007 | Josh Merwin

Posted on 05/10/2007 3:55:10 PM PDT by Baladas

WASHINGTON — U.S. Rep. Ted Poe, R-Humble, has ignited ire from bloggers nationwide and inspired TV personality Keith Olbermann to label him one of the "worst in the world."

It's because Poe, a Texas history enthusiast from his days as a Harris County prosecutor and judge, quoted Ku Klux Klan leader and Civil War Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest during a House floor speech about the war in Iraq.

Poe stated that Bedford Forrest's military strategy was "Get there firstest with the mostest" — a variation on the "Git thar fustest with the mostest" quote attributed to Forrest.

Historians disagree about whether the general ever said those exact words. Regardless, Poe's words rippled across the Capitol and online, where bloggers accused the congressman of racism for offering Forrest as a font of wisdom.

"Congress needs to quit talking about supporting the troops and put money where our mouths seem to be," Poe said to the House. "Nathan Bedford Forrest, successful Confederate general, said it best about winning and victory and the means to do so. He said 'Get there firstest with the mostest.' "

Poe's spokeswoman DeeAnn Dunaway Thigpen said the lawmaker was trying to appeal to Congress to give "troops the money they need." No racism was intended, she said.

Liberal sites thinkprogress.com and thecarpetbaggerreport.com, promptly labeled the speech scandalous. MSNBC's Olbermann joined in Tuesday night.

"See, Bedford Forrest is kind of a problem," Olbermann quipped. "He was called a guerrilla leader. In retrospect, many of his military actions were reminiscent of terrorism. And, oh, by the way, after the war, he became the first grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: civilwar; firstamendment; mediastupidity; olbermann; racism; stupidmedia; war
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Yet more of the double-standards, this "KKK" leader has been dead for decades, typical MSM bias.
1 posted on 05/10/2007 3:55:13 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: Baladas

Has anyone quoted Byrd lately?


2 posted on 05/10/2007 3:57:41 PM PDT by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Baladas

The left...all of it is CRAZY! How can they live with themselves always being that down...on everything?


3 posted on 05/10/2007 3:58:16 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Baladas

The HEADLINE of today’s Beaumont Enterprise is “Grand wiz words spell woe for Poe.” I thought Poe had been verbally attacked by Senator Robert Byrd.


4 posted on 05/10/2007 3:58:53 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: Baladas

Did he quote Sen Byrd?


5 posted on 05/10/2007 3:59:46 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: SmithL
Has anyone quoted Byrd lately?

"Pritty, pritty, pritty...."

Will that do? lol!

6 posted on 05/10/2007 4:02:35 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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What better illustrates the hypocrisy of the media. A Republican is blasted for quoting a Grand Wizard. The Dems get a pass for having one as a Senator.


7 posted on 05/10/2007 4:02:42 PM PDT by tanuki
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To: Baladas

Olbermann is a jerk.


8 posted on 05/10/2007 4:04:55 PM PDT by texanyankee
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To: Baladas
"Congress needs to quit talking about supporting the troops and put money where our mouths seem to be," Poe said to the House. "Nathan Bedford Forrest, successful Confederate general, said it best about winning and victory and the means to do so. He said 'Get there firstest with the mostest.' "

Well said!

9 posted on 05/10/2007 4:05:33 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Don Corleone
The left...all of it is CRAZY!

And they're proud of it.

10 posted on 05/10/2007 4:08:46 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Baladas

Actually it is MSM lazy incompetence, the phrase “Wall of Seperation of Church and State” was not commonly used whatsoever, until a Supreme Court ruling quoted it.

That ruling was written by one Cheif Justice Hugo Black, he wrote “Seperation of Church and state” in 1946, so when the ACLU etc say “A wall of Seperation” do your part and remind them that a KKK member wrote that, and and do ask why they are quoting a dead racist?


11 posted on 05/10/2007 4:13:43 PM PDT by padre35 (we are surrounded that simplifies things-Chesty Puller)
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To: EGPWS

The Union rhetoric wasn’t as flashy but we know who won


12 posted on 05/10/2007 4:13:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Baladas
Of course, the Liberals want to turn Iraq over to al Qaeda and Iranian-supported terrorists, all of whom are far more vicious than the Klan’s evil was. The Klan hung blacks, intimidated people, assured discrimination against blacks, Catholics, Jews and others. But the al Qaeda who the Democrats work to aid in Iraq commits mindless mass murder to the best of its capabilities. By comparison, al Qaeda and Iran’s proxies have far more blood on their hands.
13 posted on 05/10/2007 4:23:23 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda knows Iraq's strategic value, yet the Democrats work day and night for our defeat there.)
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A bit of trivia"

In the 1994 motion picture Forrest Gump, the eponymous Tom Hanks character states that he was named after his ancestor General Nathan Bedford Forrest, and there is a photo montage showing the general, also played by Hanks, in military uniform and Ku Klux Klan robes.

14 posted on 05/10/2007 4:26:41 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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KKK Bobby Byrd (D) Conscious of the Democrats!
"I'm going to use that (N) word!"- March 4, 2001

15 posted on 05/10/2007 4:27:36 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: Baladas; All
Oh, fer cryin out loud! It’s quoted all over the place, for example on this US Army site.
16 posted on 05/10/2007 4:33:20 PM PDT by dighton
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Forrest is fine by me. Poe should tell he critics where to shove it.

Keith Olbermann to label him one of the "worst in the world."

Olbermann does that all the time. He is a champion of hyperbole. No one watches his cruddy show on MSNBC, so he needs other media outlets to quote him for anyone to know what idiotic thing he said now.

17 posted on 05/10/2007 4:39:56 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Rudy Giuliani gets his salsa from New York City.)
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“”See, Bedford Forrest is kind of a problem,” Olbermann quipped. “He was called a guerrilla leader. In retrospect, many of his military actions were reminiscent of terrorism. And, oh, by the way, after the war, he became the first grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.”

Olberman needs to go back to school and learn his Southern history. He doesn’t have a freakin’ clue as to what he’s talking about.


18 posted on 05/10/2007 4:44:43 PM PDT by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"The Union rhetoric wasn’t as flashy but we know who won"

We also know which side lasted for four years with just about every disadvantage imaginable. The south really shouldn't have lasted longer than four-six months.

19 posted on 05/10/2007 4:44:56 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Rudy Giuliani gets his salsa from New York City.)
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To: Baladas
The insane stupidity of this controversy is beyond belief.

1) The phrase “get their furstest with the mostest” is a well known military axiom that has been quoted for over 100 years.

2) Forest was a great general, and Poe was quoting him on military matters.

3) Evil men are quoted all the time without the speaker having to apologize for it. Stalin said “How many divisions has the Pope”? Is anyone who uses the phrase now a Communist?

4) We could be mercilessly satirizing the left over this, but since most Americans are historically illiterate or too stupid to understand the sheer ignorance/craziness of Olbermann’s remark it will quickly fade.

20 posted on 05/10/2007 4:46:01 PM PDT by pablo H (Remember '96- No more Doles!)
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