While she is a liberal, lesbian democrat (the trifecta?) she is also smart and usually worth reading, if only for a "know your enemy" heads-up.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I play the clarinet. I watch All My Children. I reviewed a book, I was interviewed by someone. I'm obsessed with myself. I ... I ... I ...
I generally enjoy Camille, but the narcissism of the Left seems to be increasing lately.
2 posted on
05/10/2007 3:36:21 AM PDT by
ClearCase_guy
(Enoch Powell was right.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
She’s more precisely a left-leaning libertarian. Calling her a “liberal” is off-the-mark.
3 posted on
05/10/2007 3:38:25 AM PDT by
1rudeboy
To: 2ndDivisionVet
She has NO clue what this war is about, and it does appear as though a virus of mental blindness plagues toooo many minds of Americans. These barbaric killers tried to make the land of USofA the battlefield, and wisely President Bush read the intel for what it showed, chose to take the war to their own heated sandpit.
Just because the majority of battles are taking place in Iraq proper it is not only Iraqis, but Iranians among other like minded barbarians that have joined the battle. I suppose some minds will forever stay in the 60’s.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Amazing I read as far as I did. Right up to the part where she thinks that the VT massacre has anything to do with the restless physical energy of boys.
Beyond that, I could not follow.
5 posted on
05/10/2007 3:53:27 AM PDT by
Graymatter
(FREDeralist)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I liked this line about Hillary ....” so addicted has she been to her glammed-up, diva-sanctified-by-suffering persona,”
I also liked her take on Rosie and her lines from “All My Children”.
LoL.
11 posted on
05/10/2007 4:39:01 AM PDT by
nuconvert
([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Paglia is a great example of a very talented and intelligent person who ALMOST gets it. She certainly can turn a phrase, and has a terrific eye for our culture in all its manifestations. I enjoy her writing, but that “almost” part is really frustrating.
14 posted on
05/10/2007 5:23:15 AM PDT by
cdcdawg
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The ceremony honored a resident of Doylston, Penn., Marine 1st Lt. Travis Manion, age 26, who was killed the prior weekend near Fallujah on his second tour of duty in Iraq.Get it right Camille - it's Doylestown, birthplace of James Michener. I was married in the court house there.
Semper Fi Lt Manion.
16 posted on
05/10/2007 5:48:22 AM PDT by
Rummyfan
(Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
While she is a liberal, lesbian democrat (the trifecta?) she is also smart and usually worth reading, I think she gets paid by the word.
19 posted on
05/10/2007 6:01:27 AM PDT by
Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet; Graymatter
High school (which has become just a frantic, callow rat race for brand-name college admission) is not an eternal principle of the universe. It was invented relatively recently -- a point solidly made by Jon Savage in his interesting new book, "Teenage" (which I reviewed last weekend in the New York Times Book Review). Age segregation by grade, in my opinion, is a mechanistic atrocity that spawns ruthless social cliques, who oppress and enrage the losers in the provincial pecking order. As I have argued for years, we desperately need a return to vocational training. The virtually universal conversion of American high schools to a pre-college track over the past half-century has watered down the curriculum to its present deadening uselessness. Lower-middle-class and working-class families who pay taxes have a right to expect that primary schools will prepare their children for a productive life.
My platform calls for a revalorization of the trades (which are related by craftsmanship to the art schools where I have taught for most of my career). Upper-middle-class families should be ready to support their children's unorthodox choice for a career in carpentry, masonry or landscaping. We need to strip the elite aura from the claustrophobic "prestige" jobs in sterile corporate offices, where high salaries drug the worker clones from recognition of their own imprisonment and castration.
I agree with her 100% on this. Most homeschoolers do.
21 posted on
05/10/2007 6:44:12 AM PDT by
cinives
(On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ugh. Reads like Joan Baez on crack.
24 posted on
05/10/2007 6:58:23 AM PDT by
DonGrafico
(Gowd demmit bub! You ain't from around heah ah ya?)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I’m always surprised at how clearly she thinks in some areas, education for instance, and how lockstep and blind she is in other, remaining a Democrat, for instance.
Her comparison of the Vietnam and Iraq wars is pretty much apples and oranges unless you accept the fact that radical Islam and the countries who harbor it are not any threat to us, but then how to you explain 9/11?
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ignoring quite a bit of the article...this is it's strongest point:
"As I have argued for years, we desperately need a return to vocational training. The virtually universal conversion of American high schools to a pre-college track over the past half-century has watered down the curriculum to its present deadening uselessness. Lower-middle-class and working-class families who pay taxes have a right to expect that primary schools will prepare their children for a productive life."
Countless numbers of high school students end up feeling like failures because the system is set up to prompt you to go to college.
28 posted on
05/10/2007 7:32:25 AM PDT by
Katya
(Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I heard Camille was serioulsy ill with cancer.
Hope her writing again means she's on the mend.
The number of people I read who are from the left has been shrinking down to almost nothing.
29 posted on
05/10/2007 7:36:35 AM PDT by
AU72
To: 2ndDivisionVet
If she’s so darn smart why would she be leaning toward Edwards? I think of the whole lightweight democrat field Edwards is the souffle.
30 posted on
05/10/2007 7:37:09 AM PDT by
mimaw
To: 2ndDivisionVet
A recent caller to Sean Hannity's radio show, hosted that day by WABC's always lively Mark Simone, shockingly denied that Mormons are Christians. The implication was that evangelical Protestantism is absolute truth -- which would also put Roman Catholicism beyond the pale.Ms. Paglia needs to do a little research. It was the Roman Catholics that told the Protestants that Mormons are not Christians.
31 posted on
05/10/2007 9:01:28 AM PDT by
RonF
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Camille is overrated, but I think she gets respect from some because of the occasional pungent comment and the fact that she shies away from no target.
Her take on Karl Rove and Dick Cheney was a banal and tasteless riff lifted directly from the NYTimes. That put a bad taste on the rest of the column.
So she ripped Rose...who doesn’t. Joy Behar is just as bad but less open about it.
And the rest of the column is about a soap opera. I’m not snobby about soaps. When my daughter was at home, we had a great time with General Hospital, but I haven’t watched it since.
I think maybe because Camille absorbs a bunch of stuff like a sponge and spouts out opinions about everything, and because she is so sure of her opinions, she gains more respect than she earns.
I always remember her on Mary Matalin’s old radio show saying Clinton liked BJ’s because the woman couldn’t talk and he’d been the victim of talky, bossy women all his life. First his mother and then Hillary.
I compare his feelings about his mother with those of Elvis and his mother, but Elvis’s mother was a good, simple woman who adored her son and, well, Clinton’s mother was ... probably adored her son also.
32 posted on
05/10/2007 9:23:16 AM PDT by
altura
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Paglia may be smart, well-read, and a talented writer, but Florence King could kick her ass any day, in any arena.
}:-)4
33 posted on
05/10/2007 9:32:12 AM PDT by
Moose4
("(Rudy's) the exact same animal as Hillary only he wears a dress." --Jim Robinson)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
While she is a liberal, lesbian democrat (the trifecta?) she is also smart and usually worth reading, if only for a "know your enemy" heads-up. Often wrong; always interesting and thought-provoking.
34 posted on
05/10/2007 9:53:41 AM PDT by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
High school (which has become just a frantic, callow rat race for brand-name college admission) is not an eternal principle of the universe. It was invented relatively recently -- a point solidly made by Jon Savage in his interesting new book, "Teenage" (which I reviewed last weekend in the New York Times Book Review). Age segregation by grade, in my opinion, is a mechanistic atrocity that spawns ruthless social cliques, who oppress and enrage the losers in the provincial pecking order....As I have argued for years, we desperately need a return to vocational training. The virtually universal conversion of American high schools to a pre-college track over the past half-century has watered down the curriculum to its present deadening uselessness. Lower-middle-class and working-class families who pay taxes have a right to expect that primary schools will prepare their children for a productive life.Provocative insight on this subject. All levels of education in this country are in shambles.
36 posted on
05/10/2007 10:20:17 AM PDT by
floozy22
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Her description of the military funeral is poetic, but liberals can’t bring themselves to reality on this subject, ever. Understanding the necessity and the reality of war is understanding the reality of humankind. There is a huge moral difference between aggressors and those they attack - and who choose to defend themselves.
38 posted on
05/10/2007 10:25:19 AM PDT by
floozy22
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