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A cause they've long ago forgotten (Liberal Camille Paglia on Iraq, Rosie, debates, election)
Salon ^ | May 9, 2007 | Camille Paglia

Posted on 05/10/2007 3:25:02 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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While she is a liberal, lesbian democrat (the trifecta?) she is also smart and usually worth reading, if only for a "know your enemy" heads-up.
1 posted on 05/10/2007 3:25:08 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I play the clarinet. I watch All My Children. I reviewed a book, I was interviewed by someone. I'm obsessed with myself. I ... I ... I ...

I generally enjoy Camille, but the narcissism of the Left seems to be increasing lately.

2 posted on 05/10/2007 3:36:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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She’s more precisely a left-leaning libertarian. Calling her a “liberal” is off-the-mark.


3 posted on 05/10/2007 3:38:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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She has NO clue what this war is about, and it does appear as though a virus of mental blindness plagues toooo many minds of Americans. These barbaric killers tried to make the land of USofA the battlefield, and wisely President Bush read the intel for what it showed, chose to take the war to their own heated sandpit.

Just because the majority of battles are taking place in Iraq proper it is not only Iraqis, but Iranians among other like minded barbarians that have joined the battle. I suppose some minds will forever stay in the 60’s.

4 posted on 05/10/2007 3:38:39 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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Amazing I read as far as I did. Right up to the part where she thinks that the VT massacre has anything to do with the restless physical energy of boys.
Beyond that, I could not follow.


5 posted on 05/10/2007 3:53:27 AM PDT by Graymatter (FREDeralist)
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I think she’s talking about “boys being boys” and not being uniformly dosed with Ritalin by the teacher’s unions. I’ve read other editorials by her, and she can be amazingly libertarian or even conservative on some issues.
6 posted on 05/10/2007 3:59:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Nancy Pelosi: The Babbling Bolshevik Babushka from the City by the Bay.)
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She jumps topics too: It’s her style, as I understand, but you’d figure she’d have an attention span longer than “I” and one paragraph.


7 posted on 05/10/2007 4:02:31 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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She has NO clue what this war is about, and it does appear as though a virus of mental blindness plagues toooo many minds of Americans.

I do not understand Drudge's infatuation with her. Why does he find her drivel interesting enough for a link?

8 posted on 05/10/2007 4:09:44 AM PDT by Rocko
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I do not understand Drudge's infatuation with her. Why does he find her drivel interesting enough for a link?

She sounds intellectual, if you can hear as fast as she talks, writes with an appearance of authority, and is considered 'somebody' by some on the ?right? when she questions or takes issue with the doctrine of the left.

Her choice of 60's music to have playing in the recesses of the mind reading her 'get out of Vietnam, I mean Iraq', says that the reasoning skills of connecting dots of why we are in Iraq have never been developed.

9 posted on 05/10/2007 4:20:10 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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It is hard to believe that the generation of the 1960s that now holds power in Washington seems to have learned next to nothing from the disaster of Vietnam, which tore the U.S. apart.

Uh, no Camille.

The group in Washington understands that in order to win, you actually have to win. I realize that's a hard concept to grasp, but with luck, you'll pick it up.

10 posted on 05/10/2007 4:37:02 AM PDT by IncPen (The Liberal's Reward is Self Disgust)
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I liked this line about Hillary ....” so addicted has she been to her glammed-up, diva-sanctified-by-suffering persona,”
I also liked her take on Rosie and her lines from “All My Children”.
LoL.


11 posted on 05/10/2007 4:39:01 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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Hey Camille, what do you think Islam will do to you and Alison?


12 posted on 05/10/2007 4:52:30 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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Uh, no Camille. The group in Washington understands that in order to win, you actually have to win. I realize that's a hard concept to grasp, but with luck, you'll pick it up.

These people are just plain lost, their brains are so inflicted with what the Clinton supporters said of him, he could compartmentalize his mind to the point that his private mind never met with his public mind. We are down to a fight for survival of 'freedom' and these twits are stuck in the morass of their own creation they call Vietnam.

13 posted on 05/10/2007 4:59:27 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Paglia is a great example of a very talented and intelligent person who ALMOST gets it. She certainly can turn a phrase, and has a terrific eye for our culture in all its manifestations. I enjoy her writing, but that “almost” part is really frustrating.


14 posted on 05/10/2007 5:23:15 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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Paglia is anti-war, however she’s anti-islamist too. From Salon interview 4 yrs ago.....

“So do you agree with Oriana Fallaci’s characterization of the war on terrorism as a clash of civilizations?

“Before 9/11, I would never have believed it, but I do now. For years I was saying that the study of world religions in higher education will lead us toward mutual understanding and world peace and so on and so forth. Well, the attack on the World Trade Center opened my eyes. After a decade of government neglect of this issue, we now face an entire generation of ruthless young Islamic men who have been radicalized.”

” We need a cultural war — one certainly enforced by targeted military strikes and espionage directed at terror cells and leaders, like the Predator attack on that jeep in Yemen. Boom! Perfect — out of nowhere comes a missile that takes them out. Fantastic! We need small, mobile units of special forces deployed everywhere, stealth operatives — kidnapping terrorists and debriefing and neutralizing them”


15 posted on 05/10/2007 5:29:45 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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The ceremony honored a resident of Doylston, Penn., Marine 1st Lt. Travis Manion, age 26, who was killed the prior weekend near Fallujah on his second tour of duty in Iraq.

Get it right Camille - it's Doylestown, birthplace of James Michener. I was married in the court house there.

Semper Fi Lt Manion.

16 posted on 05/10/2007 5:48:22 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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From a funeral for a fallen Marine, to Simon and Garfunkel, to Presidential debates and All My Children! What is she trying to say here, or is it just stream-of-consciuosness?
17 posted on 05/10/2007 5:52:19 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She’s usually right on wrt education issues.


18 posted on 05/10/2007 5:53:10 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
While she is a liberal, lesbian democrat (the trifecta?) she is also smart and usually worth reading,

I think she gets paid by the word.

19 posted on 05/10/2007 6:01:27 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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Conventional warfare failed in Vietnam, whose culture and history the Pentagon never understood or respected, just as conventional warfare cannot succeed in an ethnically divided desert country like Iraq, roiling with competing insurgencies.

...another inaccuracy. The dominant geographic features of Iraq are the twin rivers of the Tigris & Euphrates -- the righthand arc of the "Fertile Crescent". For someone who is a professor and an avid 'expert' on Western Civilization, you'd think she'd know that, while Iraq does have large desert areas, it is basically not a desert where the Iraqi people live.

Returning to your point about "Doylston": Camille Paglia taught in Philly from '84 to '87. You think she'd know where Doylestown is given it is the county seat of Bucks County -- it's not an obscure town.

20 posted on 05/10/2007 6:42:48 AM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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