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Giuliani Plans to Publicly Embrace Abortion Rights [Rudy declares war on conservatism]
New York Times ^
| May 10, 2007
| By ADAM NAGOURNEY and MARC SANTORA
Posted on 05/09/2007 7:17:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Clemenza
Giuliani's grasp of foreign policy might as well come from reading placemats at a Chinese restaurant. **************
Heh. That would make a great tagline.
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posted on
05/10/2007 6:00:04 AM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: motife
Roe will not be overturned, according to no less that Roberts and Alito. Even if it was, NAME the states that will ban it if is. THEN, tell me the prison time you want for it. Otherwise... shut up.
Dont waste the GOP and the American electorates time with this colossal waste of hot air. Thats all the social right has on this too. Hot air. NAME the states. NAME the prison times. Be honest with the GOP and the American people. Dont hide sanctimoniously behind an ultrasound, which are irrelavent unless you ARE WILLING to send women and doctors to PRISON. And TELL US the details
**************
Abortion is murder. Yes, it's really that simple.
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posted on
05/10/2007 6:03:14 AM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: P-Marlowe; bcbuster; xzins; Corin Stormhands; Revelation 911; blue-duncan; jude24
If there are 100 pieces in the game, and someone can get 20 of those pieces to quit, then you’re now fighting over only 80 pieces in the game.
Rudy thinks he can win as the anti-life, pro-security candidate when he’s pitted against the anti-life, anti-security candidate.
In other words, he doesn’t think he needs the 20 pieces he got to opt out. Let the vote 3rd party, let them go to Greenland for all he cares. As long as they’re not voting for his opponent, he could care less.
I think, on the other hand, that no matter how liberal he sounds that he will NEVER win the black vote that goes 95% for the democrats even if they run Satan as president with the AC as his VP. Rudy’s plan leads to a general election defeat. The pro-life conservatives have balanced that huge lead the libs have with the African-American vote.
283
posted on
05/10/2007 6:06:26 AM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
To: Jake The Goose; Liz; dirtboy; indylindy; Jim Robinson
"The family tree of Eric Rudolph......." That is totally uncalled for. You owe an apology to the decent people here at FreeRepublic. If you can't be more civil, you should go elsewhere.
284
posted on
05/10/2007 6:06:49 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
(More people are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
To: Jim Robinson
Looks like we have a mini bug zapper thread going...
285
posted on
05/10/2007 6:16:34 AM PDT
by
Ogie Oglethorpe
(2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
To: TommyDale
Tommy, to be more accurate on your tag line, substitute “Americans” for “people”.
286
posted on
05/10/2007 6:21:07 AM PDT
by
P-Marlowe
(LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
To: Jake The Goose
"The family tree of Eric Rudolph......."There you go confirming what I've thought about you all along. Run along and join the other zotted Rudybots ... you will receive a warm reception there.
287
posted on
05/10/2007 6:21:07 AM PDT
by
JustaDumbBlonde
(America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
To: P-Marlowe
288
posted on
05/10/2007 6:22:39 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
(More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
To: Ogie Oglethorpe
Getting rid of cockroaches.
289
posted on
05/10/2007 6:28:03 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
(More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
To: motife
Roe will not be overturned, according to no less that Roberts and Alito. Even if it was, NAME the states that will ban it if is. THEN, tell me the prison time you want for it. Otherwise... shut up.
Dont waste the GOP and the American electorates time with this colossal waste of hot air. Thats all the social right has on this too. Hot air. NAME the states. NAME the prison times. Be honest with the GOP and the American people. Dont hide sanctimoniously behind an ultrasound, which are irrelavent unless you ARE WILLING to send women and doctors to PRISON. And TELL US the details
NAME the states?
With the passage of a Human Life Amendment, abortion will be illegal in all 50 states and all territories and possesions of the United States.
NAME the prison times?
Death penalty for doctors who perform abortions, 20 years for any person who solicits abortion, in lieu of
US Title 18, Part I, Chapter 19, Sec. 373 which punishes "solicitation to commit a crime of violence".
Is that good enough for you?
290
posted on
05/10/2007 6:30:26 AM PDT
by
LightBeam
(Support the Surge. Support Victory.)
To: dirtboy; Jake The Goose
Good riddance. That RudyLoon was playing under the radar for too long on FR. Bye bye fool!
291
posted on
05/10/2007 6:33:05 AM PDT
by
Reagan Man
(FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
To: Jim Robinson
And so Rudy publicly exclaims his excommunication from his “faith”. I guess some things are more important than others.
To: motife
motlife
This account has been banned or suspended.
Okay
Perfect. Every time a DU troll gets zapped, an angel gets its wings.
293
posted on
05/10/2007 6:36:41 AM PDT
by
LightBeam
(Support the Surge. Support Victory.)
To: cripplecreek
ROTFLMAO!
That is perfect! Save that one.
“We don’t need no Stinking Ferrets”
294
posted on
05/10/2007 6:36:57 AM PDT
by
Beagle8U
(FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
To: TommyDale; dirtboy; indylindy; JustaDumbBlonde; Ogie Oglethorpe; Jim Robinson
"The family tree of Eric Rudolph......." (posted by Jake the Goose) (Snicker), looks like the Rooty Tooters got their talking points from Rooty Campaign Central real early today.
I wonder how many of Rooty's braindead handlers it took to come up with that gibe?
Oh well----try to understand that tearing down conservatives makes these abortion savages "feel" superior........anything to brighten their drab, little lives.
295
posted on
05/10/2007 6:38:53 AM PDT
by
Liz
(Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
To: Liz; TommyDale
(Snicker), looks like the Rooty Tooters got their talking points from Rooty Campaign Central real early today. Poor Jake has been plucked, dressed down, cooked and sent home to Rooty Central LOL
296
posted on
05/10/2007 6:43:41 AM PDT
by
dforest
(Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
To: Liz
It's also telling just how much contempt they have for the pro-life movement. Rudy's not the only one self-destructing on the topic of abortion.
The Rudy boosters wail on and on about how Rudy is the only one to protect us from a dirty bomb attack, while disregarding the fact that abortion kills over a million Americans every year.
In other words, they are more concerened about they hypothetical than the carnage that is happening every day in this country.
297
posted on
05/10/2007 6:44:27 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
To: indylindy
"Poor Jake has been plucked, dressed down, cooked and sent home to Rooty Central" He imploded, as opposed to exploded.
298
posted on
05/10/2007 6:46:20 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
(More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
To: indylindy
“Poor Jake has been plucked, dressed down, cooked and sent home to Rooty Central LOL”
Ivan’s Rooty Reject Room.
299
posted on
05/10/2007 6:48:14 AM PDT
by
Beagle8U
(FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
To: trisham
Abortion is murder. Yes, it's really that simple. If one is not in favor of criminalizing abortion (either by targeting providers and/or women), then they are inherently pro-choice.
If/when Roe is overturned, which states do you anticipate would enact prohibitions? How many socons, when push came to shove, would actually vote for such measures?
This is the paradox to Rudy's support - which candidate will be the first to announce that not only do they support state's rights, but also favor prohibition? If they don't, then they too are pro-choice.
Since I don't see any coming out in support of such a policy, the default goes back to the WoT. Right now, for good or bad, Rudy has the WoT in the bank.
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