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Proud of Two Abortions
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 6, 2007 | Dan Neil

Posted on 05/08/2007 11:20:22 AM PDT by Scotswife

The abortion debate brought home He and his wife have always been pro-choice; recently, they were forced to make the Choice. By Dan Neil May 6, 2007

MY WIFE AND I just had an abortion. Two, actually. We walked into a doctor's office in downtown Los Angeles with four thriving fetuses — two girls and two boys — and walked out an hour later with just the girls, whom we will name, if we're lucky enough to keep them, Rosalind and Vivian. Rosalind is my mother's name.

We didn't want to. We didn't mean to. We didn't do anything wrong, which is to say, we did everything right. Four years ago, when Tina and I set out on this journey to have children, such a circumstance was unimaginable. And yet there I was, holding her hand, watching the ultrasound as a needle with potassium chloride found its mark, stopping the heart of one male fetus, then the other, hidden in my wife's suffering belly....

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 40yearsofliberalism; abortion; choice; cultureofdeath; gendercide; infanticide; moralabsolutes; moralrelativism; moralrelevance; pba; prolife; righttolife; sick
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To: 3AngelaD

are you all talking about the article? or about the post regarding Spitzer?

so confused.


61 posted on 05/08/2007 11:56:26 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife
And this is california...where they considered not allowing infants to go home with parents who owned guns

The almost funny thing in that is that if I was an infant who knew that my parents had killed my siblings, having a gun and knowing how to use it could be a life-sustaining skill.

62 posted on 05/08/2007 11:57:00 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: camle
they’ll regret this decision. every time they see boys playing, they’ll wonder how their two would have fared.

No they won't. The heartless can't be heartbroken.

63 posted on 05/08/2007 11:57:57 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: elc

does anyone know a 2 yr. old who DOESN’T have ADHD?

I mean...toddlers, by nature, have short attention spans and are also hyper.


64 posted on 05/08/2007 11:58:11 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: pnh102

“The almost funny thing in that is that if I was an infant who knew that my parents had killed my siblings, having a gun and knowing how to use it could be a life-sustaining skill.”

I hadn’t thought of it that way, but you’re right!


65 posted on 05/08/2007 11:59:16 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: John Semmens
The remarks by Spitzer and Boxer made me sick. When did these people lose their love for life. If a newborn doesn't make a person smile, the heart must be barren. Boxer has always demanded abortion as the first choice. Thank God there are many women who honor life.
66 posted on 05/08/2007 12:00:36 PM PDT by Son-Joshua (son-joshua)
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To: Scotswife

does anyone know a 2 yr. old who DOESN’T have ADHD?

I mean...toddlers, by nature, have short attention spans and are also hyper.


LOL so true. And how many parents exhibit symptoms during the time their kids are this age? I know I do!


67 posted on 05/08/2007 12:01:36 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: Scotswife

There was a very real risk of 5 hearts getting stopped if they didn’t, and a near certainty that 4 would have stopped, given that the mother was already experiencing complications serious enough to require hospitalization at just 15 weeks.


68 posted on 05/08/2007 12:03:07 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: 3AngelaD; Scotswife

The original “parody” comment appears to refer to Post 4.


69 posted on 05/08/2007 12:05:09 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Scotswife
Egads! I am afraid to read further. IF they didn’t want a pregnancy with more than two babies they should have implanted just TWO embryos and they wouldn’t have KILLED their other two children.
70 posted on 05/08/2007 12:07:24 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Valpal1

Another sick and twisted example of why we have to fight for those babies rights.
Ping.


71 posted on 05/08/2007 12:08:45 PM PDT by A kid with a brain
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To: John Semmens

I can only say that I am excited to see the Lord’s answer to these murderers. What they will experience for eternity, while the babies are in heaven, will be constant burning beyond any imagination. I admit I take a bit of comfort in that knowledge. Evil will writhe forever in it’s own doing.


72 posted on 05/08/2007 12:10:10 PM PDT by Frwy (Eternity without Jesus is a hell-of-a long time.)
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To: Scotswife
the U.S. Supreme Court announced its ruling in Gonzales vs. Carhart, upholding the federal ban on a rare obstetrical procedure called intact dilation and extraction, or intact D&E, also known as "partial-birth" abortion.

The decision is a watershed in abortion law, the first ban on a particular abortion procedure since 1973's Roe vs. Wade, and the first restriction on abortion to be approved by the court that does not include an exception for the health of the mother.

This is from the ruling:

No as-applied challenge need be brought if the prohibition in the Act threatens a woman’s life because the Act already contains a life exception. 18 U. S. C. §1531(a) (2000 ed., Supp. IV).

Respondents have not demonstrated that the Act, as a facial matter, is void for vagueness, or that it imposes an undue burden on a woman’s right to abortion based on its overbreadth or lack of a health exception. For these reasons the judgments of the Courts of Appeals for the Eighth and Ninth Circuits are reversed.

It is so ordered.

The author needs to learn to read before writing.

73 posted on 05/08/2007 12:11:00 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Scotswife

This article is just wrong in so many ways.

At the minimum, I have to laugh at this guy’s fear that his daughters won’t be able to get an abortion whenever they want. He bemoans the government being involved in health care decisions. Yet I am POSITIVE this liberal probably can’t wait for “universal health care”- where all of the medical decisions will be made for him by some schlep in Washington.


74 posted on 05/08/2007 12:11:11 PM PDT by Reddy
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To: GovernmentShrinker

-they should have patiently implanted only two at a time, instead they planned to murder them if the going got rough. They are SICK!


75 posted on 05/08/2007 12:11:26 PM PDT by tioga
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To: NYer

This problem of high order multiples is a LOT more common with procedures that don’t involve fertilization outside of the body. With IVF, there is an option to limit how many embryos are put back in, unlike using fertility drugs to make a woman produce multiple eggs and then allowing fertilization to take place internally (either the natural way or via intrauterine insemination). This couple had had zero embryos take in two previous rounds of IVF, so the chance of more than one taking from 5 transferred back was small, and the chance of more than two very very small — they gambled, almost certainly due to financial constraints — and got the improbable and unwanted result of too many. The net result, however, is two very much wanted babies who otherwise would never have come into the world.


76 posted on 05/08/2007 12:12:11 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

“There was a very real risk of 5 hearts getting stopped if they didn’t, and a near certainty that 4 would have stopped, given that the mother was already experiencing complications serious enough to require hospitalization at just 15 weeks.”

As one poster pointed out above, they knew they were creating life that they would likely have to kill when they chose to implant 4 embryos. Their choice and they chose death. All for selfish reasons.


77 posted on 05/08/2007 12:12:19 PM PDT by Capt. Jake
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To: P-40
The girls will remember their brothers and feel empty, more than likely.

Keep the mother in your prayers, while I know it was her choice as much as it was his, the depression that tends to follow, thus causing potential harm to those poor innocent girls.

78 posted on 05/08/2007 12:13:27 PM PDT by A kid with a brain
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To: Scotswife

Just unspeakable. They are a couple of first-class sociopaths who deserve each other.

Lord, help those surviving unborn babies of theirs.


79 posted on 05/08/2007 12:13:49 PM PDT by redstates4ever
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To: utherdoul
there are plenty of people who would have taken those other children in

You don't seem to grasp the choice these parents faced. Either they aborted two, or ALL the babies would have died (and possibly the mother too). There wouldn't have been any "other children" for other people to adopt, and there also wouldn't have been any children for this couple to raise.

80 posted on 05/08/2007 12:15:33 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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