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Giuliani gave to Planned Parenthood
The Politico ^ | May 7, 2007 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 05/07/2007 5:25:31 PM PDT by madprof98

Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani in his campaign appearances this year has stated that he personally abhors abortion, even though he supports keeping a legal right to choose. But records show that in the '90s he contributed money at least six times to Planned Parenthood, one of the country's leading abortion rights groups and its top provider of abortions.

Federal tax returns made public by the former New York mayor show that he and his then-wife, Donna Hanover, made personal donations to national, state and city chapters of Planned Parenthood totaling $900 in 1993, 1994, 1998 and 1999.

The returns have been on the public record for years, but the detail about Giuliani's support for Planned Parenthood -- along with e-mailed copies of the returns -- was provided to The Politico by aides to a rival campaign, who insisted on not being identified.

Giuliani's old contributions could echo throughout the 2008 GOP nomination battle, as he seeks to lessen the political impact of his support for abortion rights -- an unpopular position among the social conservatives who in recent elections have weighed decisively in the primaries and caucuses. The issue was raised anew at last week's debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, when Giuliani gave a noncommittal answer to the question of whether it would be a good day for the country if Roe v. Wade were overturned.

"It'd be OK," Giuliani responded, adding that it would also be all right if the Supreme Court decided the other way.

On the campaign trail, Giuliani has a consistent mantra when the abortion issue comes up. "I'm against abortion. I hate it. I wish there never was an abortion, and I would counsel a woman to have an adoption instead of an abortion," Giuliani said last month in Columbia, S.C., in a typical comment.

He also frequently notes that, during his tenure as mayor, the number of abortions went down in New York City and that, as president, he would appoint "strict constructionist judges," a description meant to reassure social conservatives.

Asked how Giuliani could reconcile personal opposition to abortion with a contribution to Planned Parenthood, a Giuliani spokeswoman reiterated the former mayor's stump message and took what could be construed as a shot against former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who has recently become an opponent of abortion rights.

"Mayor Giuliani has been consistent in his position -- he is personally opposed to abortion, but at the same time he understands it is a personal and emotional decision that should ultimately be left up to the woman," said Maria Comella.

Comella added that, "from the start, Mayor Giuliani has been straight with the American people about where he stands on the issues and saying exactly what he thinks.

"Ultimately, this election is about leadership, and it's a sign of leadership to stand by your position in the face of political expediency."

Giuliani's bid will test how far an abortion-rights politician can advance within the GOP. Every Republican nominee since 1980 has opposed abortion.

Opposition researchers for other candidates hope to make Giuliani's life more difficult at regular intervals -- and to help them out, they have a trove of video clips and quotes from Giuliani's time in City Hall showing him to be a vocal advocate of abortion rights.

For example, in 2001, appearing at a NARAL/Pro-Choice America luncheon, he voiced the conservative case for abortion rights, arguing that it "might be more consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party.

"Because the Republican Party stands for the idea that you have to restore more freedom of choice, more opportunity, more opportunity for people to make their own choices rather than the government dictating those choices," said Giuliani.

Told of Giuliani's contributions to Planned Parenthood, Clemson University political science professor Dave Woodard said, "If he actually gave money to Planned Parenthood, boy, that puts him in a very precarious position, at least in the South Carolina Republican Party."

A Republican, Woodard noted that a personal contribution is something that is difficult to explain away to abortion opponents. "This isn't something like where your position is misunderstood," he said. "An overt act of giving money shows support for a position. That can't be a mistake or misinterpretation."

Merle Black, an Emory University political science professor and author, along with his brother, of a new book on American politics, "Divided America," agreed that the contributions would again push Giuliani "on the defensive" on the issue.

"He's got to change the subject or come up with much more effective answers than he had (at the debate)," said Black.

Still, Black noted that there are "a lot more issues" than just abortion and that Giuliani's strength on national security -- along with the enhanced importance of more moderate states like California, Florida, New York and New Jersey in the GOP primary process -- could lessen the social litmus test.

Amy Walter, a political analyst with the Cook Political Report who is set to take over The Hotline next month, said Giuliani's past contributions and current rhetoric could combine to make him look like an opportunist. The issue threatens to go to "the heart of what opponents of Giuliani are hoping to do, which is undermine him on his greatest strength, which is his credibility and leadership."

The effort, Walter said, is not just to portray him as "not conservative enough, but to try to chip away at the image of a leader and nonpolitician."

Spokesmen for Romney and Arizona Sen. John McCain said their candidates have never donated to abortion-rights groups. (Romney gave to a Massachusetts anti-abortion-rights organization last year.)

Founded in New York City by Margaret Sanger in 1916, the Planned Parenthood Federation of America has 860 locations around the country. In addition to providing abortions, the organization also provides birth control, emergency contraception, testing for STDs and other gynecological services.

In 2005, the last year for which a Planned Parenthood representative could provide statistics, the organization performed 264,943 abortions and distributed more than 1.2 million emergency contraception kits.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; elections; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; plannedparenthood; prolife
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To: madprof98

Yet another “guess what, Giuliani is pro-abortion” thread.

Just in case someone missed the 1,564 prior ones.


41 posted on 05/07/2007 6:16:01 PM PDT by gonewt
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To: w1andsodidwe
"I am still going to vote for Rudy if he is running against Hilliary or Barrack Hussein."And you're obviously very proud of that fact. Just how many and which of your conservative principles have you compromised in order to come to this statement?
42 posted on 05/07/2007 6:18:23 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: gonewt
Yet another “guess what, Giuliani is pro-abortion” thread. Just in case someone missed the 1,564 prior ones.

As long as Rudy lies about being personally opposed to abortion, these threads will keep being posted.

43 posted on 05/07/2007 6:19:26 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: Eva

Nonsense. People are posting positive stuff all the time. But you have to take the good with the bad, and not expect folks to ignore the conservative shortcomings of a candidate, particularly if he’s someone who is supposed to represent our side.


44 posted on 05/07/2007 6:20:40 PM PDT by RabidBartender (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kerMm0HG1mk)
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To: Eva

Beat it, troll


45 posted on 05/07/2007 6:21:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: w1andsodidwe
Yes, and let's not forget that his ex wife (Donna Hanover) was in the play "The Vagina Monologues". Surely we can use that against him.

So a man who will seeks to hold the reigns of power in the Oval Office ... was dumb enough to marry a biotch like that.

Funny, that argument doesn't win me over.

46 posted on 05/07/2007 6:21:27 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: Eva
The topic contains no real relavant revelations. We all know that Rudy is weak on right to life.

Tell that to his supporters. They claim Rudy hates abortion, even though he gave money to Planned Parenthood and has a perfect rating from NARAL. They claim he will appoint anti-Roe strict constructionist judges, even though, on two occasions, Rudy has said his version of a strict constructionist could uphold Roe as precedent.

As long as the Rudy boosters tell lies about Rudy and abortion, we will keep telling the truth. Sorry if you find that offensive, but I find a rabid pro-abort type seeking the GOP nomination to be FAR more offensive to the integrity of the GOP.

47 posted on 05/07/2007 6:24:12 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: Eva
How ‘bout finding something good to say about a single candidate

None of you ever have anything positive to say about any Republican candidate.

If "disingenuous" were like water, you'd be drowning in it.

48 posted on 05/07/2007 6:25:12 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Right, I’m a troll. I’ve been a member longer than you have. Try a little deeper thinking.


49 posted on 05/07/2007 6:25:26 PM PDT by Eva
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To: dirtboy

Thanks for proving my point.


50 posted on 05/07/2007 6:29:12 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: w1andsodidwe

You didn’t have a point to prove.


51 posted on 05/07/2007 6:30:09 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: Eva
>>>>>I’m really tired of Republicans attacking other Republican candidates.

FR is a conservative website, not a GOP website. One major political objective for FReepers is to expose the liberal record of candidates like Rooty.

>>>>>None of you ever have anything positive to say about any Republican candidate.

That's simply not true. Most of the opposition on this forum is geared towards Giuliani and for obvious reasons.

52 posted on 05/07/2007 6:30:23 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: madprof98
"Mayor Giuliani has been consistent in his position -- he is personally opposed to abortion, but at the same time he understands it is a personal and emotional decision that should ultimately be left up to the woman," said Maria Comella.

Translation: Mayor Giuliani has been consistently inconsistent.

Either it is a human baby deserving of legal protection, or it is not. There's no real room for middle ground.

53 posted on 05/07/2007 6:46:18 PM PDT by Lexinom (DH08/FT08)
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To: Eva

“I’m really tired of Republicans attacking other Republican candidates”

Don’t look now, but Rudy isn’t a republican...


54 posted on 05/07/2007 6:54:10 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: madprof98

He’s toast. If he wanted to be president he should have ran as a democrat.


55 posted on 05/07/2007 6:56:30 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Reagan Man; Eva
Reagan Man is right, Eva. Associated with the Giuliani drumbeat has been this desire to "get over" matters that carry broad historical import - the things that make America less American, the things which seek to tear down precisely that which makes the WOT worth fighting.

If the motivation behind your comment is not that, then I can appreciate your frustration at the negativity as we try to cull the field. Do remember, though, the the founder of FR as a disabled American, has a deeply personal stake in how we as a society treat those deemed somehow "less worthy" - the disabled and the unborn.

56 posted on 05/07/2007 6:56:47 PM PDT by Lexinom (DH08/FT08)
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To: Eva

You’re a democrat anyway.


57 posted on 05/07/2007 6:57:53 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I would much rather see Robert Bork as AG.


58 posted on 05/07/2007 6:58:30 PM PDT by Hoodat ( ETERNITY - Smoking, or Non-smoking?)
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To: Hoodat

Oh. That would be FUN. :)


59 posted on 05/07/2007 7:02:26 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: madprof98

Butter Rudy. He’s toast.


60 posted on 05/07/2007 7:06:56 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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