Posted on 05/07/2007 4:35:39 PM PDT by ventanax5
We [Arabs] have become extinct," said Syrian poet Adonis in a March 11 Dubai television interview transcribed by the Israeli media monitor MEMRI, [1] but ignored by the mainstream Western media. The prognosis by Adonis, the only Arabic writer on the Nobel Prize short list, for the Arab prospect has become more bleak over the years, and his latest pronouncement has a Spenglerian finality.
"We have become extinct ... We have the masses of people, but
a people becomes extinct when it no longer has a creative capacity, and the capacity to change its world ... The great Sumerians became extinct, the great Greeks became extinct, and the Pharaohs became extinct," he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at atimes.com ...
I wish they were!
I assume he is excluding the ability to destroy the world...that seems like what they are intent on doing....
Yet a certain group of people who were their contemporaries survives, and have done so despite thousands of years of persecution and genocide. I'm sure this group of people will outlast the Arabs too.
Why are there no Arabs on Star Trek?
It takes place in the future.
/old joke
As long as they continue to adhere to the most violent religious practices of Islam, the sooner the better.
It they would get over the idea of programed ignorance via the literal interpretation of the Koran, they could be come a vital part of the living, growing world, instead of being a lethal part of the world...
Unfortunenately, they cannot survive their own who have turned to the Golden Calf, not there is no Moses to intercede for them.
Maturity is challenging for some.
Spencer replies:
Spengler weighs in on the Armstrong/Spencer kerfuffle in “Are the Arabs already extinct?” in Asia Times (thanks to James), and gets me all wrong:
As a poet, Adonis does not describe the spiritual state of the Arabs, but rather evokes it existentially. The available literature on Islam consists mainly of a useless exchange of Koranic citations that show, depending on whether one is Karen Armstrong or Robert Spencer, that Islam is loving or hateful, tolerant or bigoted, peaceful or warlike, or whatever one cares to show. It is all so pointless and sophomoric; anyone can quote the Koran, or for that matter the Bible, to show whatever one wants. With Adonis one gains access to the inside of the Arab experience of modernity. It is a terrible and frightening one, not recommended for the faint-hearted, but indispensable to anyone who wishes to get beyond the pointless sloganeering of the pundits.
As anyone knows who has ever actually read what I write, rather than second-hand characterizations of what I write, I do not use Qur’anic citations to show that Islam is hateful, bigoted, or warlike. In reality, I report on how jihadists use Qur’anic citations to justify hateful, bigoted, and warlike actions. And I show that in doing so, they can and do invoke Hadith and Islamic jurisprudence to support their points also.
I have never said, and will never say, that any view of Islam is correct or incorrect. That is because there is no central authority in Islam that can decide such matters. I do say, and have said many times, that jihadists recruit by presenting their version of Islam as pure, true, and correct Islam, and that this view is buttressed by passages from the Qur’an and Sunnah as they have been understood by mainstream Islamic commentators, and by all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence, which all teach warfare against unbelievers — as well as by the fact that peaceful Muslims have never formulated any effective theological/juridical response to any of this. Thus the only possible avenue for Islamic reform, against which are prohibitive odds, would be a rejection of Qur’anic literalism, and literalism in regard to Muhammad’s words and example.
But to reduce all this to Qur’an citation wars and to assert that “anyone can quote the Koran, or for that matter the Bible, to show whatever one wants” is, to borrow a phrase, pointless and sophomoric. There are no armed groups of Jews and Christians committing violence today and justifying that violence by reference to their Scriptures. And, as I show in my upcoming book Religion of Peace? Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn’t, a close examination of the Jewish and Christian Scriptures and how they have been interpreted, as compared to the Qur’an and how Muslims have interpreted it, shows that the texts are by no means equal in their capacity to incite to violence.
Spengler has been better in the past.
How do you have a creative society, when further thought is ahead of time known to be fruitless? Adonis argues that the Arab fears freedom. Freedom is too much of a burden, you must face reality and face the entire world in freedom. If you are a slave, you don't have to deal with all of that.
This guy takes pessimism to the nth degree.
Can’t we speed up the process to make them extinct?
At the rate they are breeding, hell no.
Arabs are about as extinct as cancer.
At least that part is correct for them. And that would be due to ____________.
It is dangerous to count your enemy out until he is really out.
What does a country export? Show me a list of export items and I can show you a gauge of "creative capacity". If terror or terrorists makes it on this list, chalk one for "negative creative capacity". If Iran exports terror and oil, one will cancel out the other - zero -- the amazing zero - they gave us zero once and have been giving us zero ever since.
LOL! They are doing their best all by their own.
Did you hear what one of these Leftie Liberal Tree
Hugging Death Culters said today???
He said that Humans should reduce their population to only 1 Billion people worldwide, because humans are a cvancer
to the Earth, and we should not be alloweed to have babies.
Only those committed to killing off 5 Billion Humans should be allowed to ghave children...
Is there any more proof needed that the DemoSocialists
Are Death Cult?
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