Posted on 05/05/2007 11:18:00 AM PDT by John Jorsett
Exactly. I've replaced every 60 W incandescent in my house with a 100 W equivalent CFB. I use less total power and get brighter lighting. And the CFB's won't weld themselves into the socket because of their lower heat output. Also the high daylight CFB's mentioned earlier kept my plants very green all winter.
It would appear it is not correct.
And even this is over stated. In both examples the calculation is based on 100% coal power generation. Coal provides less than half the electrical power in the US. When using realistic numbers for American power generation, the CFL causes more mercury pollution.
That’s exciting. Have you tried any of them?
And yet you still clicked on, then posted on, the thread...
“Plus, we should take pollution controls wherever we can get them. ‘
Sadly, that’s the enviro mantra. What the reporter should have said was we should take pollution REDUCTION wherever we can get it -— if it is economically feasible.
C’mon, 8,000 hours is like 333 days running constantly. It lasts six or seven months of using them 4-8 hours per day. That’s way, way short of the mark. If they say 8,000 hours, they should deliver 8,000 hours. At the very least they should deliver 6,500 hours. So, like assuming 7 months at 30 day/month and 8 hours of use per day I got about 1700 hours. How is that even close? It’s something like 22% of the promised life.
Plus after reading about the clean up at Junk Science I don’t know that the hassle of an accident is something I want to put up with. So the false advertising and the potential for poisoning myself tells me that this isn’t the right technology.
I have more then that one bulb but I don’t think I’ll be buying anymore. Sometimes I drop things, I don’t want to spend $2,000 or have to put on a hazmat suit to clean it up.
They were promoted here long before ‘green’ became the fashion...but just to cut power consumption and delay the construction of new power plants.
Canada Joins Australia in Banning Incandescent Bulbs: Will California Be Next?
NY lawmaker wants to ban filament lightbulbs
To answer the earlier question concerning conservatives response, I believe the above actions explain why...
It’s a very expensive bulb.
Do you like being cheated? Do I have to be cheated like this to want to save a little money?
Plus, like I say in the other post, I don’t want to wear a hazmat suit or spend $2,000 on clean up.
It’s bad enough I have a very dangerous bulb to get rid of now. I don’t really appreciate that hassle. They should pay me.
So, your undeniable logic is it’s okay to cheat people?
Good post!
Do you feel their stated lumens are accurate?
Thanks for the tip. I’m going to try one or two.
I dropped my garage and basement workroom flourescents into the garbage container in the garage then just hit them with a hammer..............I think I'm scheduled to die next week.
Time: 14 years ago
Place: Military housing on base
Situation: Husband got new assignment. I'm cleaning the house and packing up stuff. Haul all the junk down to the curb -- albeit neatly -- to be picked up garbage man. One of the items was a gallon just with about maybe 2-3" of paint in it.
So, I'm in the house washing down the kitchen cabinets when suddenly someone's pounding at the door:
Wondering what the heck is going on I go to the door. Standing there is a middle-aged, bantam rooster of a bureaucrat. The conversation goes like this:
Him (pointing): That your trash out there?
Me (looking, wondering what the heck is going on. Is it on fire or something?): Yes.
Him (stern): Come with me. I wanna show you something.
Me: Ah...okay.
We go to the neatly stacked pile of garbage by the curb. With a stabbing motion he points to the can of paint.
Him: Do you know disposing of paint in the trash is a felony?
Me: It's only a little bit of paint. I got it from (base) housing (supply). It..."
Him: It's a felony.
Folks, I came this close to being a smart mouth and replying "Oh, you mean like shooting a judge??" But, in a sudden, unexpected burst of common sense, I didn't.
The story ends with him lecturing me how I had to dispose of it, where I had to take it, what forms I needed, &c. &c. I took the can of paint -- upon which, apparently, the fate of all mankind hinged -- kept it in the hall closet for a couple of days.
Then I drove to the back of chow hall, and tossed the ^%$#@ can of paint in one of their huge dumpsters.
--The End--
You can buy them in different spectra. Mine have one similar to the sunlight (Megaman Nature Color). They give an amazing light.
LED's make an excellent light source. You see them now in many car brake lights and flashlights. I've read notebook computers as well as LCD TV's will be switching from fluorescent backlights to LED's. LED's seem to have all the advantages of low energy consumption, long life, and no heat production. The only downside is cost, but that will come down as usage ramps up.
I think they are pretty accurate. What was most of concern to me was color temperature. For general use I like about 3500k but for reading I like about 4500k. If you are picky about that sort of thing you’ll want to check that. :)
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