Posted on 05/03/2007 5:29:50 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
With most of the scientists with relevant background driven off or banned, what is the purpose of a thread like this except for hearing the echo chamber?
Written by someone that doesn't know how to fix cars. Good mechanics would know these things and be familiar with even small changes made from year model to year model.
Didn't you read the article? Here's the summary:
As the oft-quoted Theodosius Dobzhansky wrote in 1973, “Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution”. The time has clearly come for medicine to explicitly integrate evolutionary biology into its theoretical and practical underpinnings The medical students of Charles Darwin's day did not have the advantage of such a powerful framework to inform their thinking; we shouldn't deprive today's budding medical talent of the potential insights to be gained at the intersection of these two great disciplines.
You simply do not get it.
This is a political Forum, and there is room for dialogue on a number of subjects, but in the end, it is also a Conservative forum.
You can call people who have alleged relevant backgrounds conservative if you like, but for real, they ain't conservative, and out here they ain't relevant.
I have been around the block, and the so called relevant backgrounders are worse than any mob names that you could ever hurl at FReepers.
Those so called "relevant" types, were in many cases, intolerant, smug, arrogant, and BS artists who have not likely done half the reading that this here particular High School dropout has ever done.
No offense intended.
I would never use a doctor whom I knew to be ignorant of, or at odds with, the basics tenets of evolution.
ping
Doc, Don't bother, they've made their choice.
Weep not for the departed.
Thanks for the ping. IMHO, the med student’s curricula are overloaded in the first place with other government mandates and mandates from the accrediting bodies. I can’t say about other states, but in NY professional licences are issued from the NY State Dept. of Education.
In Ohio they’re issued by the state medical board, in Florida too I think, although I never paid much attention.
I want my doctor to know what is, NOT what MAY have been. Useless crap, clutters the mind! Now a mutant may be something new, but I don’t think there are to many running around except in the movies(X-men)!
Well, personally, I think medical science, like all science, is limited to what man can accomplish. But GOD is greater than man, and greater than all man’s sciences.
Medicine, and medical community, is great, but it can only do so much. Jesus, on the other hand, can heal us of all our diseases. When man can’t find the cure, God is always there.
False. Ph.D.s are required to contribute something original to the existing body of knowledge in their field.
MDs are simply required to learn (by rote) as much as they can in four years. They do no research, and make no original contributions.
Evolution has no clinical relevance...
That seems not to be the case. Read the article.
...there simply isn't room in the curriculum to replace medically relevant subjects with Darwinism.
You gave yourself away with the "Darwinism" comment. That is a term favored almost entirely by anti-evolutionists. Scientists rarely use the term, but anti-evolutionists must think they can get more mileage out of using a loaded term. Must be one of their talking points.
Ever seen the term "Einsteinist" or "Newtonist"?
Comparing what little we know to all that there is to know, I assert that next to nothing in biology makes sense, either in light of, or in spite of, evolution.
The plain fact is that neither statement in any way alters the biological processes themselves, neither alters any man's ability to observe those processes, learn their progression, to understand what happens, and in what order. Whether the man is a humanist, an Islamist, a Moonie, or a Scientologist is entirely irrelevant to the ability to observe, record, and relate the particulars of that which was observed. And it is also irrelevant to the man's ability to identify processes that he does not yet understand, to determine the need for deeper study, and to devise specific methods by which to advance that study. To assert that a belief in evolutionary theory would suddenly transform the man from scientific incompetence to Nobel Prize stature is patently absurd.
At some point, it must be conceded that a macro-scale framework is nearly entirely unneccessary to the complete understanding of micro-scale events. In fact, it may be a time-wasting tangential distraction. Who needs an origins theory to comprehend the internal processes of a cell? The cell is being studied in the present tense, and its behavior will not change in any way regardless of what theory of origins is subsribed to by the brain connected to the eye looking into the microscope. Ninety-nine percent of all scientific research and discovery could be carried forward with complete success in an absolute vacuum of any origins theory whatsoever, and it's high time that everyone just sat back for a minute and acknowledged that. There's been far more heat than light generated in the bickering about origins over these last many decades, and that energy would be much better invested in hard research studying the myriad present-day, observable, physical things we do not fully understand.
Perhaps if everyone took that approach, our progress in hard data would eventually reveal the truth in an inescapable fashion, WITHOUT all of the mudslinging, name-calling, backstabbing, slander, accusation, smug elitism, career wrecking, and downright devilry we currently face.
None of that is "science"; it's little more than a mob of so-called "grown ups" demonstrating the misapplication of that label by having a bloody row in the sandbox of life. And, make no mistake, I include parties on all sides of the fray in my indictment; there's guilt enough to go around.
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