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MASSACRE MOVIE MIFFING MITT
NY Post ^ | May 3, 2007 -- | ROBERT D. NOVAK

Posted on 05/03/2007 6:43:32 AM PDT by presidio9

OPENING in theaters Friday, a motion picture called "September Dawn" depicts a brutal American mas sacre that has been forgotten. On Sept. 11, 1857, in Utah Territory, Mormons slaughtered more than 120 California-bound settlers from Arkansas. Retelling at this time the 9/11 carnage of 150 years ago does not help Mormon Mitt Romney's presidential campaign.

The basic facts about the Mountain Meadows Massacre are not in dispute. Mormons mobilized Paiute Indians, accompanied by Mormons disguised as Indians, to attack a peaceful wagon train. The settlers beat off the attack but were left short of food and ammunition. They disarmed themselves at the request of Mormons who said they would lead them to safety but instead turned on the settlers, murdering every man, woman and child above the age of 8. All that is in doubt historically is whether this was ordered by Brigham Young, president of the Mormon Church and territorial governor of Utah. "September Dawn" says he was responsible, and the church denies it.

Today's Mormons, including Romney, cannot be blamed for these events. Nevertheless, the candidate has followed the church's example in ignoring this movie. Romney will not comment on "September Dawn" and indeed will not watch it. That follows his decision not to defend his Mormon faith or actively fight religious bias that has impeded his candidacy.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: alliteration; clds; mittromney; mormon; mountainmeadows; moviereview; robertnovak; septemberdawn
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1 posted on 05/03/2007 6:43:33 AM PDT by presidio9
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They disarmed themselves at the request of Mormons who said they would lead them to safety but instead turned on the settlers, murdering every man, woman and child above the age of 8.

There is a lesson in there somewhere...

2 posted on 05/03/2007 6:44:44 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: presidio9

What was the purpose of killing everyone over 8 and what happened to the kids?


3 posted on 05/03/2007 6:45:25 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: presidio9

Another old fart Republican for McCain...


4 posted on 05/03/2007 6:46:10 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: AppyPappy
What was the purpose of killing everyone over 8 and what happened to the kids?

Because children under the age of 8 can be influenced to convert to their religion, and after several years will have little memory of what happened to their family. Tribes of people have done this for time immemorial.

5 posted on 05/03/2007 6:49:35 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: presidio9
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket *** Romney for president.
6 posted on 05/03/2007 6:50:22 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: AppyPappy

PBS showed a 2 hour thing on the Mormons the other night, and the Meadow Massacre was mentioned. The children were spirited away to live with Mormon families, according to the show.


7 posted on 05/03/2007 6:50:46 AM PDT by dmz
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To: AppyPappy
As I understand it, Mormons believe that under that age of 8 the soul is not yet fully formed and therefore the small children can still be "molded".

The kids were taken in by various Mormon families and raised as their own.

In a sort of odd coincidence, the date of the massacre was Sept. 11.

PBS had an excellent 2-part series this week on the Mormon faith.

While I have to say that every Mormon I've known seems to be a person of outstanding character, there are still some things in their doctrine that I just can't reconcile with.

8 posted on 05/03/2007 6:52:13 AM PDT by carolinablonde (Proud member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy)
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To: presidio9
What a blatant, naked attempt at a Mitt Romney drive-by. Not you, of course, necessarily, but the author.

PS, I'm no Mitt supporter. But this was obvious.

9 posted on 05/03/2007 6:52:17 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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How come the MSM never mentions that Harry Reid is a Mormon. (Of course in Harry’s case the word has one too many Ms)


10 posted on 05/03/2007 6:53:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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(Of course in Harry’s case the word has one too many Ms)

Hee, hee.

11 posted on 05/03/2007 6:54:35 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: dfwgator
(Of course in Harry’s case the word has one too many Ms)

!!!

Well played!

12 posted on 05/03/2007 6:55:33 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

I think it is more of a “Hey, look what is in the news!”. People eat up this kind of stuff. See DaVinci Code


13 posted on 05/03/2007 6:57:28 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: carolinablonde

Harry Reid is a Mormon, so they don’t all have outstanding character.


14 posted on 05/03/2007 7:00:02 AM PDT by stop_fascism
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This is just a hit on Romney. I'm not a Romney supporter by any means, but not on account of what his co-religionists did 150 years ago. How is he responsible for the Mountain Meadows Massacre? Might as well say that modern Southerners are responsible for slavery and the Civil War . . .

. . . oh, wait. People DO say that . . .

. . . never mind.

15 posted on 05/03/2007 7:00:05 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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>>attended an April 11 screening of the movie hosted by its lead actor, Jon Voight (who plays a fictional Mormon bishop). A conservative, he said this was no hit against Romney. “I didn’t even know he was running when we began this,” Voight told viewers after the screening. But he said this terrible story is important considering America’s war against terrorists.

Didn’t even know he was running?...Jon’s really up on the
news, isn’t he? Though I guess that depends on when the
movie started filming. btw my older brother played drums on a couple albums by Chip Taylor, who is Jon’s brother (Chip’s
real name is James Voight—Chip wrote “Angel of the Morning”, a hit for Merilee Rush and then Juice Newton, and also the Troggs’ classic “Wild Thing” and Janis Joplin’s
“Try (Just a Little Bit Harder)”)


16 posted on 05/03/2007 7:00:11 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: presidio9

This should also be bad for Harry Reid (D - Mormon). Oh wait, the media isn’t crucifying that Moron.


17 posted on 05/03/2007 7:00:47 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: 2banana

I was just reading A Study in Scarlet (the first Sherlock Holmes myster) and Mormons seem to be the bad guys there as well. Even if that is true though, it’s all in the past, and while Romney isn’t my choice, I am tired of the gratuitous drive-bys on his religion.


18 posted on 05/03/2007 7:01:32 AM PDT by oakcon (America wants you: Run Fred Run!)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
"What a blatant, naked attempt at a Mitt Romney drive-by. Not you, of course, necessarily, but the author."

It is indeed. And what this show doesn't tell you than when it came to persecution and mass murder, Mormons were ususally on the recieving end of it. They left Illinois because Methodists chased them out from the barrell of a gun. Later, Joseph Smith was murdered by another Protestant denomination. When the Mormons got to Utah, they considered it their sanctuary. They went there specifically to get away from the mobs attacking them, and were understandably paranoid about Protestants making their way out there.

Painting the Mormons as bad guys from this one event is like painting America as the bad guys in World War II because of the Dresden bombings.
19 posted on 05/03/2007 7:01:54 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: presidio9

Another “Historical Masterpiece” along the lines of JFK and Fahrenheit 911.


20 posted on 05/03/2007 7:05:31 AM PDT by azcap
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