Here are REAL stromtroopers.. Former:)). Some grandies of today Estonian nationalists were in this column.
Posted on 05/02/2007 6:13:46 PM PDT by kronos77
moscow • Russia halted deliveries of oil products to Estonia yesterday in a move that coincided with protests in Moscow over the Baltic state’s relocation of a Soviet war memorial.
The cut-off was likely to revive Western fears the Kremlin is using its energy might as a political weapon against ex-Soviet neighbours.
Russia’s state rail monopoly said it planned to carry out maintenance on the rail link to Estonia, disrupting supplies.
Coal exporters said Russian railways had also halted exports of steam coal via Estonia for this month, totalling up to 900,000 tonnes, citing a shortage of railway wagons.
They said Russian rail monopoly RzHD told them they must use their own rail wagons, not RzHD’s, but it has not been possible with such short notice to find alternative wagons.
Moscow and Tallinn have been trading barbs since Estonia last week moved a bronze statue of a Red Army soldier—revered in Russia as a symbol of its huge sacrifices in World War Two — from its spot in the centre of the capital.
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Tell that to the Tatars, Bashkirs, Kalmyks, Chuvash, Mordvinians, Komi, Udmurt, Yakut, Karelians, Adygeans, Mari, Ingush, Cherkess, Chechens, etc., etc. Our motto in the the USA is “From Many, One.” Yours is “Russia for the Russians.”==
No “Russia for Russians”. Acually it is “Russia for native people those whose lands incorporated into Russia”.
But do you know Joe who is really “Russians”? It is just common name for those finno-hungarian tribes which lived on Northern Europe Forests. Russia accually was founded by Vikings. The “Russ” is teh viking word. But from what people? For your information “Chuvash, Mordvinians, Komi, Udmurt, Karelians” are just finno-hungarian tribes from which Russian nation was built. They are just founder of Russian nation together with nomad slav tribes too. You may ask me ho wabout Ukranians? Ukranians are the mix too. But some different. They ar epartially slav but partially turk. They are dark haired and dark-eyed. Russians are fair heared and blue-eyed.
Simply some Russians already forgot thier tribes some didn’t. I know it for sure I’m half Mordvinian myself by mother side.
The first ever town of “Russ” was Novgorod. The northern town of Russ. Kiev was founded later.
We are united nation. You probably may split away some Caucausus tribes (And I’ll be very glad for it) but not our central core which is those finno-hungarian tribes.
So what I just wanted to say. You just no almost nothing about Russian history if you say that you may split Russia. Russian Empire gone for good. But Russia for RE is just as United Kingdom for British Empire.
The fun of situation is that those Estonians or Finns or Hungarians are our blood kins accually:). See for example on new president of France. He is Hungarian by his decent. That make him the blood kin of Russians:).
The Estonian nationalists are our friends and allies while the Russian nationalists despise America and want to destroy us. That’s why.==
Thank you for sincere answer. But I know that Joe:).
“Why you denouce “Russian nationalists”
You mean trained NASHI storm troopers?==
“trained NASHI storm troopers” Your love for extravagant definition is well-noticed:)). BUT.. You shouldn’t have seen no real “stormtroopers” if call them NASHI.
Finns are a Turkic people. The Rus were Nordic Swedes. Slavs are neither.
All monuments to the “Great Patriotic War” should be destroyed and all remains of Russian soldiers returned to Russia. I think that’s a fair trade.==
Yeah. They did thier busuness destroying Hitler now they are not needed anymore. Jut simagine what would happen with Europe if Stalin stopped the war with Hitler in 1944 on the border of USSR? What if Allied forces on West met the whole German army not thier 1/3 part?
I understand that the gratitude isn’t nation trait but during those battles those soviet soldier were the allies of Americans. Thier monuments to be destroyed then American are too.
Finns are a Turkic people. The Rus were Nordic Swedes. Slavs are neither.==
Finns? Tell it to people of Finnland:). Turks are dwellers of Southern europian plains (stepps). The Northern Europe are Forests. SO there were the different tribes with the different culture. Accually it was the same type of people through all Northern Europe from today Norgen till Ural mountains.
Over a flippin’ statue... and yet we cannot muster the strength for a firmly-worded letter when our domestic interests are utterly imperilled through an unarmed invasion (which has the full support of those governments), when our industries have their secrets pirated all over the globe, when our citizens have to pay ever-increasing prices to compensate for the numerous follies of “developing” nations all over the world.
Here are REAL stromtroopers.. Former:)). Some grandies of today Estonian nationalists were in this column.
Where do you think the Finns came from before they arrived in Northern Europe, Ivan? Magyars (Hungarians) are indeed an Asian steppe tribe. Their language is not Indo-European. They are not related to the vikings.
They were fighting for a totalitarian state that slaughtered millions of Ukranians. Had not Adolf broken the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, your fathers/grandfathers may have been fighting at his side.
Is the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in your Russkie history books? I doubt it, since it's truth, something Russian have never been accustomed to their dictator telling them, remains in short supply in the neo-Soviet Empire of the Putin régime.
>>They all are corrupted by USSR. Now it is over and that why they create lot of noise about “blackmail and intimidation” of Russia. Russia just ask them to pay the market price. Secondly Russia just tell them that those who do dirty trick will be refused to do business with her.<<
All EU countries are paying same price for Russian oil.. as you see it did not made us bankrupt... as I said before... get over it, you live in a commie dream, where you can itimidate every neighbour you want to...
well you can’t, Putin seems to get it and he’s scared.
too bad it’s not precise only when we speak about Russia...
amazing, isn’t it?
too bad it’s not precise only when we speak about Russia...
amazing, isn’t it?==
I simply do not know much about CIA facts concerning other countries. But I know everything about Russia so when I see that CIA is unprecise I tell it. After all same CIA “experts” didn’t predict no dissolution of USSR. So I think they can mistake and frequantly.
All EU countries are paying same price for Russian oil.. as you see it did not made us bankrupt...==
It is now but few years later it wasn’t a case. Putin compelled you all pay same good price. So he was named for that a “blackmailer”, a “dictator” and so on.
Is the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in your Russkie history books? I doubt it, since it’s truth, ==
You again mistake:) As usual in any cases about Russia:). This pact is in books. There are many discussions about it. It is very controversial theme. I’ll explain you why below.
Moscow’s Red dictator signed a mutual security pact with the Berlin Nazis, in Moscow, and in 1939.==
Yes he did. BUT.. You should remember what times were then. Just one year before in 1938 France and Britain signed with SAME Hitler the quite extensive treaty themselves. In Muhich, do you know about that?
Later in same year 1938 nazi Germany and “free” Poland carved up Checkoslovakia and partitioned its land. On the part of Chekhoslovakia the new state was created by Hitler Slovakia the new ally of Hitler.
SO you see? What Stalin had to do? If France, Britain, Poland and Slovakia with Romania signed thier treaties with same Hitler WHy it is wrong for Stalin especcially if it is profitable? Everyone in Europe in those years looked for grab some land of other. Stalin wasn’t alone in pact with Hitler and moreover he wasn’t first in it.
You shouldn’t forget the important facts when you speak the Molotov-Ribbentrop. Or else you just distort the truth for sake of propaganda.
>>Later in same year 1938 nazi Germany and “free” Poland carved up Checkoslovakia and partitioned its land.<<
Russian lies again...
Polish army entered Slask Cieszynkski to protect Polish “minority” from Nazis , Polish “minority” was around 75% of whole population of Slask Cieszynski.
When Polish army entered not even one Czech or Slovakian was harmed. Some of them even asked the permission to move to Poland or asked for the protection of Polish army.
>>If France, Britain, Poland and Slovakia with Romania signed thier treaties with same Hitler <<
Hitler offered Poland military treaty in 1936, but Poland did not agree. After that an economic war between Poland and Germany started. Every leader in Europe knew there will be war and that Hitler will push to the east and west, no way that France or Britain would agree on a treaty with Nazi Germany. Non-agression pact signed by France and Britain was last resort that could prevent the war... That’s what they thought.
There was no such thing as Slovakia
Maybe it’s time to stop accusing others of distorting the truth, since it seems you are the only brainwashed propagandist here.
The answer to your question is simple. Appeasement of Hitler was indeed an evil and indefensible act, and Stalin's alliance with Hitler was even more evil. Your attempts to defend Stalin's communist imperialism only prove what you are. You are not here to defend "Russians," but rather to defend the Soviet Union which kept Russians enslaved. You are a Soviet apologist.
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