The House of Representatives fails to override President Bush's veto

CNN.com ^ | 02 May 2007 | CNN

[Tulsa Ramjet]

Just in...

[CJ Wolf]

Agree

[RobbyS]

Better than 290 votes.

[SilvieWaldorfMD]

“Democrat” Definition:

Dimwits
Egomaniacs
Mindless
Offensive
Crazed
Ridiculous
Arrogant
Tyrants
Selfish

[darkangel82]

Walter Jones of NC, who voted for the surrender bill, and wuss “moderate” Wayne Gilchrest of MD were the only ones voting to override.

[kabar]

The Dems just used the vote as a delaying tactic and a PR move showing that the majority of the House still approved the measure, albeit not enough to override a veto.

[kabar]

It is far more than a symbolic gesture. Before gloating, let’s take a look at the final bill and see what compromises were made by the WH.

[river rat]

Once again, that feckless imbecile, Senator “Corn Rows” Biden,
let his Alligator mouth overload his Hummingbird ass.

[Just Lori]

Will someone please show these poor a$$holes the way out of town?

Gene Wilder....”The Frisco Kid”

[napscoordinator]

Oh I did not know that. I thought it was for all legislation too. Thank you for that explanation.

[napscoordinator]

I thought it was for all votes and not just judges. Thank you for your post.

[Just Lori]

Ok then! They can all go home now! They can take a vacation for the duration! That would be the best thing they can do for this nation!

[GovernmentIsTheProblem]

Republicans have expressed a willingness to put benchmarks for progress on Iraq’s government, as long as there is no U.S. withdrawal time frame, Pelosi said. “Benchmarks without teeth are, what, a conversation?” PeRepublicans have expressed a willingness to put benchmarks for progress on Iraq’s government, as long as there is no U.S. withdrawal time frame, Pelosi said. “Benchmarks without teeth are, what, a conversation?” Pelosi asked.losi asked.

What a disgusting traitorous b*tch.

She will have Dialogue with the Syrians, Iranians, Chavistas, etc, though....

[Tulsa Ramjet]

“Benchmarks without teeth are, what, a conversation?” The only "benchmarks" are the ones on her shoulders from Murtha having his way with her in the congressional weight room. Pelosi: "John, BE QUIET! Someone will HEAR!" Murtha: "Oh babe, ain't nobody out there."

[thulldud]

0“Now into the fifth year of a failed policy, this administration should get a clue,” Pelosi said. “It’s not working.”

Why do libs never say this about their own known-to-be-failed policies?

Ok, I'll answer that: Because, in their lexicon, a "failed" policy is the one instituted by "somebody else". Their policies always succeed by definition.

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

To your comment, I beg to differ. I think it’s two heads of the same Hydra.

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“War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed.” — Chairman Mao Tse-Tong, in his book “On Protracted War”

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

Walter Jones is from NC - my state. He has been very disappointing on this issue. He is a former Dem, however.

[old republic]

The number of votes required to override a veto depends on the number of representatives present in the chamber during the vote. The current interpretation of the veto override rule is that 2/3 of all members PRESENT are needed to override a veto (though I suppose some argue that the constitution requires 2/3 of the total membership.) However, historical practice has been to require 2/3 of all present voting members as long as there is a quorum. This means that potentially an override majority could be anywhere from 146-290 members while in the Senate the necessary votes could be anywhere from 34-67 depending on how many congressman are present during the vote. (By the way these same numbers apply to proposing amendments to the constitution.)

[jveritas]

Wrong. The 2/3 is the total of members in each House not those who are present for a particular vote.

[old republic]

No, that is incorrect. A congressional vote requires 2/3 present for override PERIOD. If you don't believe it read the House of Representatives rules of Procedure for yourself:

[HOUSE PRACTICE, 108th Congress, 1st Session] [A Guide to the Rules, Precedents and Procedures of the House] [From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access]

CHAPTER 57 - VETO OF BILLS

Sec. 6 . -- Voting; Disposition of Bill

Under article I, section 7 of the Constitution, a vetoed bill becomes law when it is reconsidered and passed by the requisite two-thirds vote in each House. The two-thirds vote required to pass the bill is two-thirds of the Members voting, a quorum being present, and not two-thirds of the total membership of the House. 4 Hinds Sec. Sec. 3537, 3538; 7 Cannon Sec. 1111. Section 7 further requires that the vote on passage of a bill over the President's veto must be by the yeas and nays. Deschler Ch 24 Sec. 22.10.

The motion to reconsider is not in order on the vote on the question of overriding a veto. 5 Hinds Sec. 5644; 8 Cannon Sec. 2778.

When a vetoed House bill is reconsidered and passed in the House, the House sends the bill and veto message to the Senate and informs that body that it passed by the constitutional two-thirds vote. When the House fails to pass a bill over the President's veto, the bill and veto message are referred to committee, and the Senate is informed of the action of the House. Deschler Ch 24 Sec. 23.

This information can be found on via the House of Representativs at the following link:

http://frwebgate4.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=28098229998+0+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve