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Assault charges dropped against lieutenant in Hamdania case [Shocker! Lt. Nathan Phan]
North County Times ^ | May 1, 2007 | Mark Walker

Posted on 05/01/2007 11:50:12 AM PDT by RedRover

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To: RedRover
"His only wish now is that he be allowed to continue to serve in the Marine Corps that he loves."

What am I missing? I don't see where it said he can't. Congrats to Lt Phan.

81 posted on 06/01/2007 8:28:25 AM PDT by lilycicero (SSgt Frank Wuterich wins award for Vanity Fair.)
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To: lilycicero

Far as I know, he can. But...

The devil is in the details. He wants to lead a platoon in Iraq.

Lt Pantano, despite being exonerated, resigned because he felt he would never be trusted as a platoon commander again. That was his judgement. It wasn’t based on an actual assignment by the Corps.

Hopefully, the Corps will assign Lt Phan based on his prior record. If so, all should be well.


82 posted on 06/01/2007 8:59:06 AM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: lilycicero; RedRover

I wasn’t a Marine but with the letter of reprimand in his permanent personnel record I would think the chances of promotion are pretty slim. I also don’t believe you see a lot of old LT’s in the Marine Corps.


83 posted on 06/01/2007 9:30:39 AM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo; lilycicero

I think you’re right, jaz. The likeliest bet is that he’ll get some desk job until they can release him under the “up or out” policy.


84 posted on 06/01/2007 9:37:20 AM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: RedRover

Good news about the charges being dropped. But as many here indicate, the Marine’s future in the Corps., just may have been ruined because of a bunch of rotten bastards.


85 posted on 06/01/2007 10:05:47 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: Marine_Uncle

And another experienced officer (Pantano being the other) now will sit on the sidelines of the War on Terror.


86 posted on 06/01/2007 10:59:43 AM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: RedRover
Pointing an unloaded pistol at a detainee is against the rules? Heck, I've had cops put loaded pistols to my head by police for parking in a designated view spot parking lot and later in a park.

Sounds like suspected terrorists in a war zone have more rights than kids out on a date.

87 posted on 06/01/2007 11:07:06 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (If Amnesty is the Question, Filibuster is the answer. Build Fence Now Talk Later)
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To: RedRover

Sadly. It appears so.


88 posted on 06/01/2007 12:32:10 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: RedRover

Like I said, my daughter uses Marines to practice her blood choke hold.

Thank you Lt. Phan, for your service to my country, my family. Please accept my deepest gratitude for the sacrifices you’ve made on our behalf.


89 posted on 06/01/2007 5:58:25 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

Yes, I remember you said that. Gave me a glimpse into a quiet evening at home for the frees.

Be well, ma. We’d be lost without you.


90 posted on 06/01/2007 6:06:37 PM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: Girlene; freema; lilycicero; sailor4321; 4woodenboats; pinkpanther111; jazusamo; jude24
Just learned that Lt Phan's two defense JAGSs, Cord and Munoz, will be back in action, representing LCpl. Tatum in the Haditha case.

Both have been observing the LCpl Sharratt hearing along with Jack Zimmermann, civ attorney.

BTW, one member of Lt Phan's defense team joined us on a Lt Phan thread while that case was underway (correcting an error I had made). So, once again, we get noticed!

91 posted on 06/14/2007 4:52:28 AM PDT by RedRover (Defend our Marines)
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To: RedRover

Give’m heck Cord and Munoz!


92 posted on 06/14/2007 7:15:29 AM PDT by lilycicero (I don't believe you made an error :))
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To: lilycicero; Girlene; freema; jazusamo; 4woodenboats; brityank; pinkpanther111; All
Marine testifies he was 'frustrated' by release of Iraqi suspects, North County Times, July 26, 2007

CAMP PENDLETON -- A lieutenant in charge of the squad of troops accused of kidnapping and killing an Iraqi man last year testified Thursday that he was "frustrated, agitated and irritated" on learning that suspected insurgents that the squad had captured had been released by higher authorities.

"I send my boys out to risk their necks to capture these individuals and they are subsequently released," 2nd Lt. Nathan Phan said.

Phan took the stand as a defense witness for Cpl. Marshall Magincalda, who is a member of a squad of Camp Pendleton troops accused in the slaying of Hashim Ibrahim Awad in the rural Iraqi village of Hamdania on April 26, 2006.

Phan's testimony may help explain what led the troops to a plot to kidnap and kill a highly suspected insurgent, then cover it up.

The eight men were accused of snatching Hashim Ibrahim Awad from bed in the Iraqi village of Hamdania in the early morning hours of April 26, 2006. Awad was marched about a mile down the road, where they shot him and then staged the scene to make it appear that the 52-year-old retired Iraqi policeman had been planting a roadside bomb.

The men had originally targeted Saleh Gowad, who was a known and wanted insurgent in the area, according to testimony. When Gowad could not be found, they settled on snatching Gowad's neighbor.

Also on base to take the stand for Magincalda was Cpl. Trent Thomas, who last week was acquitted of murder but convicted of conspiracy and other charges for his role in Awad's death. The jury spared Thomas from jail -- he faced up to life in prison -- and instead sentenced him to a bad-conduct discharge.

But if or when Thomas will testify remained unclear Thursday evening. His attorney, Victor Kelley, contacted at his Alabama home, said he had been unaware of the plan for Thomas to testify until earlier that day. Kelley said he does not want his client to take the stand unless he is given immunity. Even though the trial is over, there are always "collateral" issues that could affect Thomas if he testifies, Kelley said.

Six of the Camp Pendleton-based men, including Thomas, have been convicted of roles in the plot. Five of the most junior-ranking of the accused pleaded guilty and agreed to testify against their squad mates.

The men who pleaded guilty were on the stand this week, testifying for the government in the cases against Magincalda and squad leader Sgt. Lawrence Hutchins, who are being court-martialed in separate Camp Pendleton courtrooms.

Testimony in the two hearings yielded little new information not already revealed in previous public hearings.

Pvt. Robert Pennington gave more detail into the conversation between four of the men -- including Hutchins and Magincalda -- as they stood in the moonlight in a palm tree grove and outlined and narrowed their plot to snatch Gowad.

Pennington, who pleaded guilty and is serving an eight-year sentence for his role, said he was keen on the idea of killing Gowad.

"I was saying, 'Yeah, he's an (expletive). He needs to die,' " Pennington said.

93 posted on 07/27/2007 3:40:09 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

bttt


94 posted on 07/27/2007 4:33:31 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President 2008!!!)
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To: RedRover
Phan took the stand as a defense witness for Cpl. Marshall Magincalda, who is a member of a squad of Camp Pendleton troops accused in the slaying of Hashim Ibrahim Awad in the rural Iraqi village of Hamdania on April 26, 2006.

I don't understand why North County Times is still referring to this Iraqi as Hashim Awad. During the Cpl. Thomas hearing, it was revealed that the prosecution doesn't know who was killed that night. The defense for Cpl. Thomas contended that it was a suspected insurgent and the cousin of Saleh Gowad. I realize it is confusing for men to be in a brig and others going on trial for the death of an unknown Iraqi, but for clarity's sake, it should be noted in each article.
95 posted on 07/27/2007 7:45:24 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Girlene; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; ...
BIGGEST BUMP OF THE YEAR

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY NORTH COUNTRY TIMES IS STILL REFERRING TO THIS IRAQI AS HASHIM AWAD. DURING THE CPL. THOMAS HEARING, IT WAS REVEALED THAT THE PROSECUTION DOESN'T KNOW WHO WAS KILLED THAT NIGHT. THE DEFENSE FOR CPL. THOMAS CONTENDED THAT IT WAS A SUSPECTED INSURGENT AND THE COUSIN OF SALEH GOWAD. I REALIZE IT IS CONFUSING FOR MEN TO BE IN A BRIG AND OTHERS GOING ON TRIAL FOR THE DEATH OF AN UNKNOWN IRAQI, BUT FOR CLARITY'S SAKE IT SHOULD BE NOTED IN EACH ARTICLE. - GIRLENE

96 posted on 07/27/2007 5:00:55 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, NIECE)
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To: jazusamo

“Why am I getting the impression the military justice system at Camp Pendleton and the NCIS is in a self destruct mode?”

It’s becoming increasingly obvious that these maggots are nothing more than BATF agents in training. That entire organization needs to be stripped of personnel and those asshats reassigned to the grunt units currently in Iraq they are trying to railroad.

Preferably on permanent point duty.


97 posted on 07/27/2007 7:28:37 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: RedRover

Oh boy...the chickens are coming home to roost...at last.


98 posted on 07/27/2007 7:30:44 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

I couldn’t agree with you more and I said that almost three months ago, I feel stronger about it now. The NCIS is pathetic.


99 posted on 07/27/2007 7:42:39 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: freema; RedRover

Maybe it’s time to get rid of UCMJ and go back to “Rocks and Shoals.” I think that would also eliminate NCIS.


100 posted on 07/28/2007 3:02:03 AM PDT by cannonball
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