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A Knife to the Throat (Nominating Giuliani Would Be "The Death Knell of the Reagan Coalition")
American Spectator ^ | 05/01/2007 | G. Tracy Mehan III

Posted on 05/01/2007 1:41:21 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Rudy Giuliani could be the death knell of the Reagan Coalition, that successful alliance of economic, defense, and social conservatives forged in the 1976 Republican primary.

In his insurgent campaign against President Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan built the architecture for a durable political coalition of supply-siders, budget hawks, Cold Warriors, law-and-order advocates, welfare reformers, pro-lifers, defenders of the Second Amendment, and others. He integrated these main elements of the post-war conservative intellectual movement into a successful, winning political juggernaut that was, until recently, the Republican Party.

In recent years the social component of the coalition has been augmented by pro-family and pro-marriage advocates, opponents of affirmative action, and the proponents of secure borders and legal immigration.

Giuliani's radical social positions are an affront to most elements of this arm of the GOP and the conservative movement.

Some conservatives claim that Giuliani's vague and vaporous statements on the appointment of conservative judges, and his barely audible support of the ban on partial birth abortion, offer evidence of sound instincts sufficient to palliate the concerns of the traditionalist wing of the party.

On abortion, the integrity of marriage, and the Second Amendment, Giuliani puts a stick in the eye of social conservatives. As revealed on YouTube, he is a passionate supporter of the expenditure of taxpayer dollars to destroy unborn children. And he deserves very little credit for summoning the energy to oppose infanticide, which is what the partial birth abortion issue is really about. Even Daniel Patrick Moynihan, the late Democratic Senator from New York, maintained that minimalist position with respect to the right to life.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abortion; anybodybutrudy; conservativebase; dancingqueen; election2008; firstchurchofrudy; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; newyorkcity; reagancoalition; rudybotinfestation; rudybots; screwingthebase; stoprudy
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1 posted on 05/01/2007 1:41:23 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: EternalVigilance; mkjessup; Jim Robinson

Ping


2 posted on 05/01/2007 1:42:26 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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(((((STOP RUDY 2008 PING)))))

(((((A VOTE FOR RUDY IS A VOTE FOR HILLARY)))))

3 posted on 05/01/2007 1:49:23 AM PDT by Doofer (Run Fred Run........)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Now that’s what I’ve been trying to say. Great post!


4 posted on 05/01/2007 1:54:51 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Well, we would probably SURVIVE a Rudy Presidency.... I consider any of the Democrats (And John McCain) a knife to the throat, a gun to the head and a grenade with the pin pulled.

We should be able to do much better than Giuliani... But I’ll have to vote for him if he gets the nomination. I won’t like it; I’m so sick of having to vote for the ‘lesser of two evils’, but I’ll do it. I’ll definitely work against him in the primaries though.

Rudy is more of a slow poison than a knife to the throat IMHO


5 posted on 05/01/2007 1:56:50 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Right on. (Also trapped in liberal Seattle.)


6 posted on 05/01/2007 1:59:30 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Thompson / Hunter in 2008)
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To: Jim Robinson

7 posted on 05/01/2007 2:02:50 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Combined with a Dim congress and House, he could institute policies the would seriously damage the conservative way of life for years.


8 posted on 05/01/2007 2:03:03 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

“To put it another way, some economic and national defense conservatives may be able to make the calculation that Rudy is their man and standard-bearer. Indeed, Giuliani has some claim to their loyalties based on his record.

But this is not an option for social conservatives. It would be a Faustian bargain without even the assurance of any quid pro quo. If they are shut out of the GOP, they are finished as a force in American politics. This is not a parliamentary democracy. No splinter party or rump organization, centered in traditional values, will have any influence on the nation’s two parties.”

“Faustian bargain”.. No thanks.

Good find.


9 posted on 05/01/2007 2:07:51 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America ...Hunter '08.)
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To: LegendHasIt

Yeah, keep on saying this, it is exactly what the RINOs want to hear!
You won’t hear it from me!


10 posted on 05/01/2007 2:17:52 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"Rudy Giuliani could be the death knell of the Reagan Coalition,..."

Many of us are at an interesting stage in our lives. We'll only bother with keeping up on political matters as long as we believe that we have a chance of preserving or regaining our most valued freedoms.

I've watched the previous generation of men get away from following political events for the last 20-40 years of their lives. Sooner or later, most of us will scoff at politics and politicians as being all morally corrupt and overly officious for socialist special interest groups.


11 posted on 05/01/2007 2:30:27 AM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. [(cbt.) has-been])
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

$cr*w Giuliani and the horse he rode in on.


12 posted on 05/01/2007 2:31:20 AM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears will plow for those who don't.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

So, If Guiliani gets the nomination, Who ya gonna vote for? Hillary? Obama? Stay home and let Hillary or Obama win?

Let 2006 happen all over again?

I don’t see any third party potential candidates I’d want to vote for. Maybe you do.

Look, I don’t WANT Guiliani... We have to make sure he doesn’t win the primary... But if by some mischance he does, at least he won’t immediately surrender to the Jihadists.


13 posted on 05/01/2007 2:36:50 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Why have I never heard of a "Reagan Coalition" before this author? And just how relevent is that to an even-more-stupid/hurry-up-microwave/MTV/Gen-X/Gen-Y generations that comprise the 2008 electorate?

While there's a chance that Rudy can "healthily" hang on into a second term as President, his Conservative running mate could be sling-shot into the following eight years.

Let's not even consider enduring four—or eight—years of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Don't make me come back to say, "I told you so"!

14 posted on 05/01/2007 2:42:24 AM PDT by Eclectica (It only took one TV commercial to torpedo "Mr. Conservative" in 1964 — Go-o-o-o RUDY!)
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To: Eclectica
Let's not even consider enduring four—or eight—years of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Followed by four or eight years of Barack Obama.

15 posted on 05/01/2007 2:47:26 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Eclectica
Why have I never heard of a "Reagan Coalition" before this author?

The phrase "Reagan Coalition" has been around since 1980 -- over a quarter of a century, in other words -- and has been of common usage in conservative circles all that time. (Simply Googling the phrase comes up with 13,5000+ citations, alone.)

As to why you "have never heard of it" before now: I really couldn't say.

16 posted on 05/01/2007 2:50:30 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: LegendHasIt

Were Giuliani to get the Republican nomination, I would support him.

Until then, I will fight like hell to keep him from being the nominee.


17 posted on 05/01/2007 2:51:40 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692 P100 in 07?)
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To: LegendHasIt

I agree with this article, and if Rino Rudy is nominated I will go third party. I can not ever vote for this liberal.


18 posted on 05/01/2007 2:53:01 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: LegendHasIt

ALL:

Nominating Giuliani opens the door for other RINOs to lead the GOP in the future.

Stopping Giuliani today in the primaries cements the conservative dominance of the Republican Party. It sends a message to all RINOs that principles matter to the rank and file.


19 posted on 05/01/2007 2:53:50 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Principles matter. Electing RINO Rudy is not my idea of electing a Republican, it’s my idea of destroying the Republican Party.

God help us all, if Rudy or the Beast wins.


20 posted on 05/01/2007 3:02:26 AM PDT by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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