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Guiliani Fires Back at Dean's Criticism of Family Life
1010 Wins, NY ^ | April 28, 2007

Posted on 04/28/2007 1:39:09 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

NEW YORK, New York (1010 WINS) -- Rudy Giuliani ripped into the head of the Democratic Party yesterday for getting personal by suggesting Giuliani's family life poses a "serious problem."

The shot earlier this week by Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean marks the first time Dems have openly targeted Giuliani's messy past.

During a CNN interview, Dean said the GOP presidential front-runner "has a lot of character issues that he has to answer for."

"We've begun to reach out to evangelical Christians, and that's a real problem for him," Dean told CNN. "His personal life is a serious problem for him."

Dean refused to say what he was referring to, although the former mayor's marriage to his third wife, Judith Nathan, in 2003 followed a bitter, public breakup with wife No. 2, Donna Hanover.

Giuliani's team fired back hard yesterday in a Daily News article, calling Dean's verbal grenade a desperate ploy to divert attention away from the Democrats' wavering on Iraq, a theme Giuliani has clearly decided is working for him.

"Last night, the Democratic candidates for President once again made clear they just don't understand the terrorists' war on us," Giuliani communication chief Katie Levinson said, referring to the Democrats' Thursday night debate. "So sadly, it yet again comes as no surprise that the political leader of the Democratic Party - in a desperate effort to once again change the subject - resorted to a personal political attack."

The back-and-forth seemed to underscore growing concern among Democrats about Giuliani, who is the only Republican who beats all top Democrats in key battleground states, a poll showed this week.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dean; election; giuliani; judith
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Of course, none of the Democrats suggested a realistic alternative to their preferred course of action: ordering a timetable for bugging out.”

The wacko leftist fringe now owns the Democrat party to the extent that none of the front runners, nor any future runner, is willing to say anything that might be taken to support a war effort supported by the Republicans.


121 posted on 04/28/2007 8:47:16 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: denydenydeny

Here’s what’s sickening (from post immediately above):

Rudy Guiliani has marched in lockstep with liberals on affirmative action, gay rights, gay marriage, gun control, school prayer, tuition tax credits, liberal immigration policies, and he’s reinforced it, time and time again. Just about everytime Rudy opens his mouth, offensive liberal words come pouring out. As Mayor, Rudy put liberals in high-paid city jobs, an indication what a Rudy WH would look like. Here then is Rudy in his own words:
—The New York State Liberal Party on its endorsement of Rudy Giuliani for Mayor: “When the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party’s stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party’s views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion.” N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of Candidate Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989

—On the Republican Party: “Mr. Rockefeller represented ‘a tradition in the Republican Party’ I’ve worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition.” Rudy Giuliani told the New York Times July 9, 1992

—Village Voice Interview with Guiliani: He was asked: “What kind of Republican Is [Giuliani]? A Reagan Republican?” Giuliani pauses before answering: “I’m a Republican.” Village Voice January 24, 1989

—On Attending 1996 Republican Convention: Rudy expressed his pleasure when he wasn’t invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. “If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn’t seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention.” said Rudy. Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Page 459, by Wayne Barrett

—On Barry Goldwater: Giuliani described John Kennedy as “great and brilliant. Barry Goldwater as an “incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man.” New York Daily News, May 13, 1997

—On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post’s Jack Newfield that “most of Clinton’s policies are very similar to most of mine.” Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

—The Daily News quoted Giuliani as saying March 1996: “Whether you talk about President Clinon, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group.” An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

(Just for starters.)


122 posted on 04/28/2007 8:48:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oh here we go. Dean and Hart make me laugh. Rudy ain’t “all that”, but he has heart, which is more than I can say about all the Dems who are attacking him.

Between him and the bitchslapping Duncan Hunter is giving them, this shaping up to be pretty darn entertaining :-D

PS: The world community hates our guts, Obama. Grow up FGS.


123 posted on 04/28/2007 8:49:39 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
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124 posted on 04/28/2007 8:53:54 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: gpapa
Rudy, a committed cafeteria Catholic, is no saint when it comes to his personal and family life.

I wish religion was left out of discussions regarding politics. Kennedy, Pelosi, Guiliani, the list goes on and on about "cafeteria Catholics". I'm just not too moved by Romney, but do not like his religion coming under attack. LOL, Bill and Hill going to church lugging 10lb Bibles. Sheesh...

125 posted on 04/28/2007 8:54:40 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: Jim Robinson
“Strong, large government is necessary,” Giuliani concluded, “to deal with industries that are national and international and with problems that cities and states have ignored for too long a time.”

126 posted on 04/28/2007 9:06:05 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Giuliani ‘not confident’ war will turn around
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1785020/posts

Giuliani Says He Is Running for President in ’08 [And criticized our President on Iraq.]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1785153/posts


127 posted on 04/28/2007 9:08:11 PM PDT by familyop (Our first forefathers came to get away from 17th Century Europe.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Did Giuliani keep all of that most important cultural stuff in the family by marrying his second cousin?


128 posted on 04/28/2007 9:11:21 PM PDT by familyop (Our first forefathers came to get away from 17th Century Europe.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Religion is always part of the discussion with regard to politics. Nothing wrong with that. After all our Constitution is anchored in the Declaration of Independence which invoked the grace of God to grant us life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

About those cafeteria Catholics. I have to say, as a Catholic traditional conservative, I consider those folks by their actions to be violating the precepts of Canon Law and should be denied the Sacraments.

I have no problem with any candidate for President of any faith. I just believe they should practice their faith in an appropriate matter rather than paying it lip service.


129 posted on 04/28/2007 9:55:43 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: gpapa

I would settle for “I was brought up in the xxxxxx faith”. That’s what I say when someone is rude enough to enquire about my religion.

I do have a problem with those politicans who wrap themselves up in sheep’s clothing, claiming to be one thing, but acting in a totally opposite fashion. I’m talking about anyone professing a membership in any religion, not just Catholicism. Btw, I was brought up Catholic. I just couldn’t take the hijinks during Mass anymore. Found I committed more blasphemy under my breath in one hour, than during the other six days of the week.

I will never claim to be a “practicing” Catholic, because I am not. That would be dishonest. Something 90% of politicians have no problem with.

I will be so happy when this election is finally over.


130 posted on 04/28/2007 10:18:21 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

I meant no disrepect in questioning anyone’s religious beliefs. My religious beliefs are rooted in a different era. I was brought up in the 1940’s, which was quite decidedly different than the culture of today. In those days politics was never preached from the pulpit that I can remember, nor should they be today. BTW, don’t worry about the next election. They are only fleeting and thankfully the important ones only come around every four years.


131 posted on 04/28/2007 11:33:29 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: gpapa

You’re lucky you were brought up in the ‘40’s. I was brought up in the 70’s by parents who were old enough to be my grandparents. I did learn values that my peers didn’t, though. As far as I can remember, politics wasn’t discussed during Church services.

As far as I know, most churches keep politics out of their sermons. Then you have the AME churches, and pandering scumballs like Bill Clinton showing up and stumping for votes.


132 posted on 04/29/2007 3:40:18 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: muleskinner; narses
**** If the ROTC rejected Rudy for physical reasons, he probably wouldn't pass the Army physical, since the requirements are the same. See Army Regulation 40-501. ****

Not so.

Back in 1965 my cousin tried to enlist in the US Army THREE TIMES. Each time he failed the physical and naturally, was rejected. Then in Sept of '66 he gets his notice for his draft physical - he PASSED. One month later he was in Ft. Knox for basic. After AIT he was in the 2nd Armored Div at Ft Hood. But by then he had 22 Medical Profiles (no standing, no marching, no loud noises, etc, etc, etc). He stayed at Ft Hood for the duration and "ran the Motor Pool".

Point being, what 40-501 says now is irrelevant compared to what occurred back then as to physical fitness. (You'll recall Ali got drafted with an IQ of a moron)

Oh and in 1966 another buddy - a real war hero btw - was almost drafted into the Marines. But the Marines didn't 'draft', uh-huh. At the induction center they counted off in fives, every 5th went, he was 6 (or #1 in the next count). Those were screwy times.

So no, Rudy would have passed the draft physical and he knew it. But as a law school graduate would have had it pretty cushy. His odds of being in combat arms were likely nil. Hell he could have enlisted after he got his notice, got into JAG and never left the US.

He wimped out (chickened) and evaded the draft - period.

133 posted on 04/29/2007 6:37:08 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: tkathy

Regardless of my opinion of Rudy, it’s clear that the RATs are afraid of him. Not a bad thing.


134 posted on 04/29/2007 7:54:22 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (The word "Conservative" needs no modifier!)
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To: Jim Robinson

LOL!


135 posted on 04/29/2007 8:40:59 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: shrinkermd
I think you're right about this election. There's a celebrity quality to it and it will probably be Rudy and Thompson against Hillary and Obama. The order on the ticket doesn't really matter. The country needs a winning team to fight the WOT. All the other issues like healthcare, immigration, and abortion won't be the number one issue because nothing matters if we start having multiple suicide truck bombs going off in malls across America.

Rudy is a fighter despite not having served in Vietnam. He won't back down from a fight with the Democrats, the press, or the Islamists. Just remember he disinvited that scumbag Arafat from a Lincoln Center gala and the press went gaga. He also gave back the Saudi prince's check for $1 million right after 9/11. He's a New Yorker so he may never please some people on this board who just viscerally hate New Yorkers. He also has gay friends...big deal...so do most people who live in cities. Rigid attitudes by arch conservatives may get the Democrats into the WH and put us on the defensive yet again against terrorism.

BTW Whatever happened to states' rights? Aren't true conservatives supposed to want non-federal issues dealt with on the state level? If people in NY State are comfortable with gun control must people in Tennessee go all wobbly and call them gun grabbers? If there are gay civil unions in Massachusetts must people in Texas go into a swoon? Let's get a grip folks! Rudy said he'd put in strict constructionists on the court so I believe him. The rest is up to the states IMHO. (P.S. He'll bring in the Independent voter by the truckload!)

136 posted on 04/29/2007 8:56:22 AM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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To: Jim Robinson

I think Rudy is a decent man with problems with the ladies. Pretty common with most men. But not common for a republican president. And we need someone who will speak out against abortion regularly to help influence young people to not kill their babies and have that horrible consequence on their conscience. I don’t know if Rudy will do that.


137 posted on 04/29/2007 9:04:42 AM PDT by fabian
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To: Jim Robinson

Julieannie is a horrible family man model. Married three times and living with a gay between the second marriage and the third. Dressing up in drag himself, what a spectacle Julieannie is. I would never vote for this piece of garbage. The office of the President deserves a moral person who observes the laws of God when it comes to marriage.


138 posted on 04/29/2007 9:57:05 AM PDT by conservative blonde (Let's call the Jr. Senator from Illinois by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: fabian
.....And we need someone who will speak out against abortion regularly to help influence young people to not kill their babies and have that horrible consequence on their conscience. I don’t know if Rudy will do that.

He said if his daughter wanted an abortion he would counsel her against it, then offer to raise his grandchild. If she persisted he would support her decision.

I don't know what more he could do. Send her out on the street?

He has said he hates abortion and is behind the Supreme Ct with partial birth abortion.

The thing that anti-Rubs lock onto is his support of poor women getting an abortion.

They don't talk about the drop of abortion when he was mayor of NYC and showed people that when he cut welfare they had to be responsible.

To me that is the ticket to less abortion and stronger families.

Crime fell, the city blossomed. He was called a bastard but he made the city what it is today.

That is success. That is leadership.

139 posted on 04/29/2007 10:13:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I believe Rudy would make a fine president but a candidate like Romney who is stronger on the abortion issue would be better. Rudy saying that he would support his daughters decision to kill her baby is not good. Of course he would still love her but not support something which is only going to bring misery and self judgement to her.


140 posted on 04/29/2007 3:01:44 PM PDT by fabian
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