Posted on 04/27/2007 7:43:51 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet
US forces on Friday detained four members of a gang suspected of smuggling armour-piercing bombs from Iran to Iraq and sending back militants for "terrorist training", the military said. A statement from US command in Iraq said the suspects were picked up in an early morning raid on the east Baghdad suburb of Sadr City, a known stronghold of radical Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army militia.
"The individuals targeted during the raid are suspected members of a secret cell terrorist network known for facilitating the transport of weapons and explosively formed penetrators, or EFPs, from Iran to Iraq," it said.
The EFP is a form of roadside bomb in which the detonation of an explosive charge inside a steel tube causes a copper disk to deform into a fist-sized chunk of supersonic molten metal that can scythe through armoured vehicles.
American commanders say the design is exclusively Iranian and in January alleged that at least 170 US troops had been killed by EFPs since May 2004.
The statement also said that the gang had sent "militants from Iraq to Iran for terrorist training."
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Lastly, when you have GOP base who at the drop of a hat will recklessly and foolishly put a few domestic issues above the WOT .....As they did in 06......You have even less real options when it comes to dealing with Iran.
The foolishly one issue voters in the GOP base blew it big time in 06.....They are as much to blame as is the DEMs for our current situation (politically and with Iran).
I am aware of the protests against the government. Protests that are quickly quelled and G-d knows what happens to the participants. Iran is being propped-up by countries that have a vested interest in keeping the current regime in power. Besides, the regime stared down a major western power and won. Europe did squat as did the US. A lot of Iranians saw this as a national victory.
I did not always have this attitude, but the West’s own innaction and inattention have caused me to be pessimistic.
Dude, can you explain that again? Yeah man, everything after "Shaped"
Thank you.
That is the best explanation yet for what happens with an EFP.
Politically he might as well be in a coma.
Secretary of State Pelosi has not yet had an opportunity to work her magic in the realm of diplomacy. We must be patient, and not do anything to alarm the peace-seeking Iranian mullahs, to make them fear that we might mean to do them harm.
Would not the metal appear to act in a more ductile state if it is inside of a high pressure wave? Maybe the phase shift does not occur under such conditions so that it can have both solid and liquid properties.
“I did not always have this attitude, but the Wests own innaction and inattention have caused me to be pessimistic.”
Flame away....BUT(monkey)...what gives me major pause in going after Iran right now is Israel’s poor performance in Lebanon last year when the stakes were high and the implicit go-ahead was given by the US!
Israel failed to do what needed to be done at the time. Blame it on a weak government, etc.....but if Israel can not defend itself like they have always done...the US can not defend Israel.
If the US elects a democrat in 2008....Israel is doomed.(unless they understand what is at stake). In fact, I would venture that the entire WEST(USA included) is doomed if the Democrats are elected.
Frankly, I say that unless the rest of the world wakes up and defends themselves against this Islamist fascism..let them go the way that weak people go...(to the enemy).
I am tired of my tax dollars going to protect France..while the French do nothing but sit on their asses and make fun of our country!!
Someone needs to ask one of the candidates for Prez(Republicans or Demonrats)..should the US protect the entire world while they sit on their asses and do nothing?
Iran, a neighbor state of Iraq, is allowing weapons smuggling, and "training" killers, to infiltrate into Iraq to murder civilians.
This is an act of war. Iran is waging war against Iraq. Iraq is not acting like they recognize this. That is the real problem.
Torture them for info, then feed them to the buzzards.
What would be your war plan? Superficially of course since I recognize you’re not either a career military officer and have not been immersed in war fighting and logistics plans. But just a simple outline of how we engage Iran to indicate that you have something more to say than the present day analog of those folks who drove their buggies from Washington to watch the first battle of Bull Run. If merely cheerleading is the plan, perhaps we should gain some insight to the opposing forces, geography, topography, available means of resupply, and the other criteria of war fighting—not to mentions whether we have any forces left to engage in such a conflict after the debacle we’re experiencing now.
Hey FRiend! Won’t that be a little too late?
Absolutely correct. Imagine if WWII were fought like this?
'We are getting more reports that confirm Berlin and Tokyo are the sources for fighter planes that keep bombing cities all over Europe and the Far East. The debate continues in Washington and London whether the Allies should attack those Axis capitals for fear of reprisals ....'
Hola!
Frankly, that is the scenario that I see. The Dems have convinced the majority of people that Bush “faked” evidence for the Iraq invasion and they spin the meme that we just need to “establish dialogue” with Iran. When Bush speaks of Iran’s nukes, the reaction, thanks to the Dems and the Media, is “he is just lying like he did about Iraq’s WMDs.” People will not really believe that Iran is a threat until they nuke someone. At that point, the West may react.
“The Islamic fascists are emboldened by what they see as a lack of resolve. “
The same way they view us. Not that we haven’t gone out of our way to prove them right for the last 27 years or anything.
cupler “shaped charges” dropped on natanz, and the dimmies won’t have much to say about a war, since iran will declare on us.
oooops.
True, it is not molten. But water ‘projectiles’ can penetrate 1 cm of steel according to the article below.
Excellent article with details. Maybe too many details.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/bullets2-shaped-charge.htm
RAC’em. Random Acts of Chaos.
— we don’t do anything about it —
Evidently it’s not the top mullahs that are guilty here.
It’s Ayatolliver Northzadeh and his dastardly rogue gang, running a covert operation from the Qom Palace basement/sark
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