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Pricing Software Could Reshape Retail
iWon News ^ | April 27, 2007 | BRIAN BERGSTEIN

Posted on 04/27/2007 11:50:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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Interesting how that works...
1 posted on 04/27/2007 11:50:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We do the same crap in the grocery industry. For example the latest price on Yoplait this week was 6/3.96. Oh no we can’t say just 66 cents because that’s regular price...we need to say it’s 6 for 3.96! =-\
We also try and trick people to buy more by pricing something at 10/10 or 5/5 when actually if buy one it will still ring up as $1.
And then when we do buy one get ones we’ll raise the price of the item up so your not saving as much as you think getting the other one free.
It drives me nuts.
2 posted on 04/27/2007 11:59:02 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Makes sense to me. You see the low-price drill, and then you say “how much more for the next-best one”. That’s a big price jump. But is it worth it? Well, you see the one more espensive is only SLIGHTLY more. You subconsciously expect a linear relationship between features and price.

So, you decide that the mid-range model is “overpriced” compare to the cheap and expensive model. And if you know you didn’t want the most expensive model, you also determine that the “cheap” model is a “bargain”, since by linear theory it should be $110, but it’s $90, a $20 savings.

By lowering to $110, they simply put the linear model back in play, and people who didn’t want to be “the cheapest model” saw a “fair price” for the next-higher model, and purchased it.

If you lowered it’s price to $100, people would see it as an “uncommon value” relative to the expensive item. More people would buy it over the $90, but you’d lose sales on the $130.


3 posted on 04/27/2007 11:59:57 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is new about this ? Pricing software has been around since the dawn of man. eg, all airline ticket fares are computer generated and updated in real time


4 posted on 04/27/2007 12:00:26 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: miliantnutcase

Sounds like you work/shop at Kroger.


5 posted on 04/27/2007 12:03:23 PM PDT by IamConservative (I could never be a liar; there's too much to remember.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We're hard-wired to love sales

Exhibit A: My mother-in-law. She serious comes to us with 'I know the kids don't need another jacket, but it was only $4.00'

One thing that kills me now days it to see a sign that says 50% off. Right next to that they have a chart

$10 - $5
$20 - $10
$30 - $15

How pathetic are americans that they can't calculate percentages?

6 posted on 04/27/2007 12:07:17 PM PDT by bird4four4 (Behead those who suggest Islam is violent!)
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To: IamConservative
Pretty close. I actually work for Cub Foods which is the dominant grocery chain in MN. Were a subsidiary of Supervalu Inc. who is a rival to Kroger.
7 posted on 04/27/2007 12:11:35 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Khimetrics arose from an unusual linkage. The Ouimets were reared in retail - their parents run a firm that sells price data to stores, wholesalers and manufacturers. But Ken went on to study theoretical physics and chemical engineering. In the early 1990s, while examining equations that predict the behavior of billions of atoms in gases or other complex systems, Ouimet realized that the buying decisions of consumers could be plotted in much the same way.

The name 'Khimetrics' sounds a lot like 'Chemometrics,' a branch of chemistry that builds models around existing data to make predictions. Then it says one of the guys studied physics and chemical engineering. That makes a lot of sense. If this is the approach used, the software will be very useful. It will be able to pull out relationships in large quantities of data that would be incredibly tedious, if not impossible for a human to identify.

8 posted on 04/27/2007 12:12:33 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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The CEO of Albertson's grocery stores told analysts in 2005 that the chain was reaping "big dividends" after pricing software advised charging less for such items as paper towels, toilet paper, ketchup and soup.

I'm not sure I'd be claiming Albertson's as a success story. There's a chain that's pretty well crashed and burned over the last 3 years.

9 posted on 04/27/2007 12:13:19 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: bird4four4

Percentage?

Ain’t that something like FRACTIONS?????

What’s the DIFF?


10 posted on 04/27/2007 12:14:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Makes sense to me. You see the low-price drill, and then you say “how much more for the next-best one”. That’s a big price jump. But is it worth it? Well, you see the one more espensive is only SLIGHTLY more. You subconsciously expect a linear relationship between features and price.

Yup. The software extends that logic by sorting out buying habits so you can optimize your profits and sales volume across an entire product line or inventory.

11 posted on 04/27/2007 12:15:39 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
After analyzing an array of variables, including sales history and competitors' prices, the software suggested cutting the middle drill to $110.

They needed software to tell them that?

12 posted on 04/27/2007 12:18:03 PM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: jan in Colorado

ping


13 posted on 04/27/2007 12:18:51 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: miliantnutcase
Were a subsidiary of Supervalu Inc. who is a rival to Kroger.

FWIW, the pricing strategies sound exactly like your rivals. I have seen "Buy One Get One" work where the first of an item rings up at retail and the second rings at $0. What drives me batty are the customer loyalty cards. So, I drive my wifes car and don't have my loyalty card because it is on my other key chain and I have to pay 10% more for my groceries. Makes no sense. I have heard this is really just a way to jab it to the government. Purchases with Food Stamps can't use a loyalty card.

14 posted on 04/27/2007 12:19:02 PM PDT by IamConservative (I could never be a liar; there's too much to remember.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why are Macs and iPods never significantly discounted? All other computers and MP3 players are every day.
15 posted on 04/27/2007 12:20:59 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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To: miliantnutcase

Yoplait is on sale this week for $0.50 at Safeway.


16 posted on 04/27/2007 12:23:54 PM PDT by drb9
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To: krb
They needed software to tell them that?

"Boss, Model B isn't selling as well as the others."

"OK Snerdly, drop the price ten bucks and see if it moves."

17 posted on 04/27/2007 12:23:54 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The article makes scant mention of Oracle Retail Solutions (Formerly ProfitLogic). This firm manages prices for 18 of the top 25 retailers, so you would think it would be interesting to get a comment from them, rather than from has beens I have never heard of.


18 posted on 04/27/2007 12:24:08 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: miliantnutcase

What is interesting also with grocery stores is the pricing of the same product in different quantities or sizes. the last two digits (cents) are always different which make it harder to divide the cost per unit. Peanut butter is a great example to write down the prices and go home and figure out the cost per oz.


19 posted on 04/27/2007 12:36:55 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my SUV with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I do the price optimization thing at Dunkin' Donuts of all places. Being a math teacher, it screams at me.

The prices of 14 oz coffee is 60 cents more than the 10 oz, but the 20 oz coffee is 20 cents more than the 14 oz. DUH. (Actually, the XL is more cost-effective, but I never finish it before it's too cold to drink.)

But there's more to it. All the franchises have this 2 donut and 1 coffee special that varies in price according to the size of the coffee. EXCEPT THAT THESE prices vary even when the coffee prices are the same (from franchise to franchise) and you DON'T get the same bargain.

The end result is that two donuts might be more expensive (relatively speaking) if you buy a larger coffee rather than a smaller one. Oddly enough, if most Dunkin Donuts, i refuse to buy doughnuts when I'm there for coffee.

TS
(Actually, I usually go to McDonald's now, where the coffee is usually 50 cents cheaper anyway.)

20 posted on 04/27/2007 12:38:59 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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