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To: Beckwith
Obama sponsors Illinois Senate Bill 750 creating the "Halal Food Act," providing for inspections by the Department of Agriculture to ensure that all food labeled Halal is prepared according to Islamic law.

The rest of your post is useful information, but this one is just silly -- a good conservative and/or libertarian could also support this measure due to the concept that the food in question is not being fraudulently advertised.

20 posted on 04/27/2007 8:14:37 AM PDT by kevkrom
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To: kevkrom
Oh please give me a break! Do you know what is involved in Halal Food? When the cow is slaughtered someone has to say a muslim prayer when cutting it in order to become Halal meat. This should not happen in America, this is not a muslim country, period.
22 posted on 04/27/2007 8:20:06 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: kevkrom; jveritas
Whoa, wait a minute. Jveritas is to be congratulated on pointing out what's happening in Illinois regarding "halal".

I read a lengthy, detailed article in the Chicago Tribune the other day detailing what's involved in this bill. Perhaps someone has the article and will link to it.

You have no idea what this bill entails. The cost to the taxpayers will be enormous. Various shades of Islam religionists demand different religious rites and practices to be applied in food and meat preparation from the slaughterhouse and thence inch-by-inch along the route right up to the dining room table. The process is going to be unenforceable. It will cause chaos and enormous additional overhead in the food industry from food factories, slaughterhouses, warehouses, restaurants, supermarkets, the labeling industry, the packaging industry, you name it.

The various Muslim religionists are fighting among themselves already. Each want its own practices observed. There is no single agreed-upon halal.

Don't jump before you're informed, folks. If these kinds of bills are passed in your state you'll pay through the nose in price-raises at the stores and in taxes..

At least the Jewish kosher requirements proceed through the food chain relatively seamlessly, are not onerous, hardly fanatical nor are they a drain on the taxpayers.

Imagine the added inspectors/investigators/enforcers that will be needed to carry out these Obama-type legislative mandates. The enforcement will actually begin on farms and ranches, factories and food processing plants, slaughterhouses and greenhouses, supermarkets and small grocery stores.....all subject to fines and worse if they don't conform to every crazy requirement of "halal".

Not to mention the endless Muslim law suits against non-conforming businesses..........

It's not just a simple matter of labeling. It's just the beginning of the incremental power-creep we're beginning to notice in Islamic strongholds across the fruited plain.

Leni

52 posted on 04/27/2007 9:01:55 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Bahama Mama ( moi ) planning FReeper vacation week. Not a cruise. It's "FReeps Ashore!" Stay tuned!)
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To: kevkrom
The rest of your post is useful information, but this one is just silly

You only write that because you are ill informed of the stages of Islamization. Please read what happens, worldwide, when Muslims reach 5% of the population.

The following is a description (slightly modified) from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness.

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs [Europe, Australia, USA and Japan]. Six percent of US prison inmates are Muslim. Like any other minority, they won’t integrate, but work to build their own separate community.

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves (remember Target stores) -- along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world, but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. (Paris car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats.

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning (India, Mindanao, Philippines and Israel).

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare [Indonesia].

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya (infidel tax). (Sudan, Kosovo, Lebanon and Egypt).

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide [Sudan, Western Papua (New Guinea), Biafra, Turkey and North Nigeria].

100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" - House of Peace - as in Saudi Arabia, Libya and Yemen.
75 posted on 04/27/2007 9:59:04 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: kevkrom

I think you’re right about supporting it, but it should be noted that Obama sponsored it. Unless he was one of 100 co-sponsors, this is a top priority for him.

But knowing how Islam seems to work these days, Muslims have to obey a long list of rules that none of them even know. So what is halal today might not be halal tomorrow.

The hijab suddenly becomes the burka.


82 posted on 04/27/2007 10:26:22 AM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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