Giuliani Outrages Conservatives With "Get Beyond" Abortion Snipe

LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 4-17-07 | Peter J. Smith

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Home | Previous Page | Source URL: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/apr/07041705.html LifeSiteNews.com Tuesday April 17, 2007 Giuliani Outrages Conservatives With "Get Beyond" Abortion Snipe By Peter J. Smith DES MOINES, Iowa, April 17, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Former New York Mayor and Republican presidential candidate Rudolf "Rudy" Giuliani told supporters in Iowa that Republicans needs to "get beyond" pro-life issues and choose a candidate who can win the presidency in 2008. Giuliani - a candidate known more for his leadership during the 9/11 Islamic terror attacks than his liberal views - told Republicans Friday at a campaign stop in Des Moines that Republicans need to elect someone who will fight terrorism and keeping the economy growing.  "Our party has to get beyond issues like that," said Giuliani in response to a questioner's fear that abortion is dividing the party. "Our party is going to grow and we are going to win in 2008 if we are a party characterized by what we're for, not if we're a party that's known for what we're against," Giuliani said in reference to abortion. "My view of it is I hate abortion. I think abortion is wrong," said Giuliani. "Yet ultimately I respect that that's somebody else's decision and that people of conscience can make that decision either way and you can't put them in jail for it." Giuliani's comments - first reported in the Des Moines Register - created a furor among conservatives, who objected that they needed to gloss over their convictions and support a candidate not too dissimilar to the platform of the pro-abortion, pro-homosexual agenda platform of the Democratic Party. "Giuliani is saying that he has deep respect for all those people out there who want to throw pregnant women in jail. Has the mayor actually met any pro-lifers?" posted conservative columnist Ramesh Ponnuru on National Review Online's The Corner. Nathanael Blake, writing for Human Events, described Giuliani as a "pro-abortion extremist" supporting both partial birth abortion and taxpayer funding of abortion. "Apparently, we're supposed to just 'get beyond' the murder of 3000 innocents every day in America and turn our attention to the really big issues, like, in the words of one GOP sell-out, 'fiscal responsibility and good management,'" said Blake. "If the Republican Party nominates Rudy, it will be the death of any principled conservatism." Besides his pro-abortion stand, Giuliani also supports the homosexual agenda, and as mayor of New York, he advocated special "rights" for homosexuals, marched in "gay pride" parades, and welcomed the "Gay Games" to New York City. Giuliani opposed the Federal Marriage Amendment, favoring the creation of homosexual civil unions, and as a comic routine has appeared occasionally in drag since 1997. The aspiring presidential candidate's cross-dressing gag is found all over the Internet and Youtube, including one drag gag featuring him being groped by Donald Trump. Historically, since Ronald Reagan in 1980 the Republican party has only won presidential elections by nominating candidates supporting the "right to life." Although Giuliani leads the pack of presidential contenders now, he may begin to lose considerable support as the party's conservative base discovers Giuliani's radical beliefs. Although polls are still fluid at the early primary stage, Giuliani's abortion flap may have increased support for Arizona Sen. John McCain, who jumped double digits in an April 16 CNN poll tightening the race: Giuliani 27%, McCain 24%. An earlier LA Times/Bloomberg poll, showed undeclared candidate former US Senator and "Law and Order" star Fred Thompson taking second place to Giuliani at 15%, followed by McCain with 12%, and Mitt Romney with 8%.

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[Silly]

The abortion issue will never go away, and Giuliani cannot wish it away or pronounce it over. Abortion will always be wrong, those who value life will always fight to eliminate it, it will always be a scourge on this nation and the world.

What is changing is the way we fight abortion. We may have to adopt an incrementalism that chips away slowly for a time, until we can get the whole thing to crumble. We also must sacrifice much more of our private money to care for mothers who need help during pregnancy, and who do not know what they want to do with their children.

Even then, people will get illegal abortions, but they will be lawbreakers.

[Jim Robinson]

Get thee behind me, Satan.

[hosepipe]

LoL..

[ARE SOLE]

"get beyond" pro-life issues

Why is it us that need to "get beyond" pro-life issues?

Why doesn't he get over his obsession with the convenience killing of the most innocent and the most vulnerable among us.

Regards.

[Anti-Bubba182]

Rudy has a flip attitude toward issues vital to conservatives. His comments are dismissive and insulting. As a politician he knows better. If he does not care enough to even present himself in a sympathetic manner, he is certain to run over people when elected.

Would I vote for him over HRC or Obama? Yes I would, but I don't see how he gets the nomination with his record and the way he is presenting himself. His polls are high because people are not really paying attention yet.

[Caipirabob]

Giuliani Outrages Conservatives With "Get Beyond" Abortion Snipe

Every single one of us standing has "gotten beyond abortion".

It's the little ones we want to help now.

[Irishguy]

i just find it interesting that he is against guns but for abortion.....

[Son House]

Even Democrat supporters would agree on a high threshold for abortion,
elected Democrats are the problem.

[WildcatClan]

I would vote for Rudy over the pantsuit or the emptysuit if I were forced to vote. I am, however, not forced to vote, and would choose none of the above. The final result will be the same and by 2012 a 2008 victory for “our side” will be cold comfort when the demographics have changed in such away as to make a conservative POTUS nearly impossible. In my opinion, so far, there is only one real choice, someone who will put political correctness and multiculturalism aside and enforce our existing immigration laws, fight terror (without our hands tied behind our backs), put the ChiComs on notice and deal a major blow to Roe vs Wade. No, I don’t mean Rudy McRomney, or that we need to unpack an actor out of mothballs or waste time salivating over any other future “fantasy Candidate”. We already have a man who will do all that is needed and more, Duncan Hunter.

[Baladas]

The GOP now needs to get beyond his bid for the nomination.

[highlander_UW]

No.

[Verax]

[Freedom_Fighter_2001]

“end your love affair with the fetus” /s

[Verax]

[RabidBartender]

""Our party has to get beyond issues like that," said Giuliani in response to a questioner's fear that abortion is dividing the party."

And there's your daisy bomb ad Hillary's folks and Moveon.org will be running should Mayor Giuliani win the Republican nomination.

[Alex Murphy]

The GOP now needs to get beyond his bid for the nomination.

ROTFL

[cpforlife.org]

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[CharacterCounts]

Rudy runs against conservatives and yet so many so called conservatives rabidly support him. Go figure.

[commonguymd]

It’s amazing. Driven by fear most likely. It is apparent to me that many have no core values that they feel worth fighting for. I for one believe we must begin the process of ousting Rudy from contention. I refuse to accept a lesser of two evils (rudy hillary) so early in the game. Rudy must go. Either this is a conservative site or it is a site for the log cabin republican types to push the GOP party to the left. I say let’s move it right! Now.