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Christians for Rudy Giuliani
Spot On ^ | April 25, 2007 | Scott Olin Schmidt

Posted on 04/25/2007 9:37:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

When I tell my liberal friends and associates that there are only a handful of Republicans that I would vote for before Hillary Clinton, the response is universally the same. I get a blank stare, followed by the question: "do you really think Rudy Giuliani can win the Republican nomination?"

If you've read about my infatuation with the Giuliani candidacy, you know my answer is YES. While Democrats like to fall in love with a candidate—Howard Dean or Senator Obama, for example—Republicans prefer picking winners.

With notable exceptions, like the 2002 California Gubernatorial race—Republicans recognize that they, like the Democrats, are a minority party. And yes, the Religious Right will vote for Rudy Giuliani just like they voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger in California in 2003 and again in 2006.

While most Republicans would rather support a candidate who opposed abortion rights and supported the Second Amendment, they also realize that, after seven years of George W. Bush's religious-right mobilization efforts, Americans would be hard pressed to elect such a person.

Republicans don't like being losers. Being losers is why people become Democrats.

Rudy Giuliani offers the best and most practical hope to fight off the evil empire of American politics—the Clinton Family—because he remains a national hero and is not tarnished by the Iraq war. What's more, Giuliani's "urban conservative" message of freedom for all evokes the origins of the Grand Old Party—while chipping away at the core voter base of the Democrats.

Giuliani's electability is what will get Religious voters to support him—and some will do so even enthusiastically.

If you don't believe me, then just follow the money. Campaign logic would say that Rudy Giuliani, the more moderate—dare I say liberal—Republican would be sweeping in campaign dollars from urban areas, where Republicans have more libertarian leanings. Meanwhile, Mitt Romney, the born-again religious conservative, should be raking in the dough from suburban, ex-urban and rural areas where like-minded folks call home.

Campaign logic, however, would be wrong.

Romney leads Republicans in fundraising nationwide—but also in Los Angeles and its most liberal zip-codes of Beverly Hills, Hollywood and the Westside. Giuliani, on the other hand, wins the fundraising battle in the neighborhoods West of the 405 of Brentwood and Pacific Palisades with a higher concentration of single-family homes.

This anomaly is more stark when you look at the numbers from across the State. Romney is raising more money in urban areas like Sacramento, San Diego and San Francisco. Giuliani is taking in the preponderance of dollars in faraway places like Yolo County, Ventura, Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Napa, Salinas, the Inland Empire and Fresno.

If you looked at a map of fundraising by County in California, Giuliani would win the Red Counties and Romney would take the Blue. It is as if Mitt Romney were the GOP's Phil Angelides.

Look no further than the case of Real Estate Developer/Hotelier C. Frederick Wehba if you need more convincing. The passionately evangelical Christian—who started his own church in Beverly Hills and is a major contributor to George Bush and the RNC. C. Frederick is backing Rudolph Giuliani in 2008, as are Bill Simon and many others in the Christian Community.

Without Ted Haggard to tell them how to vote, Republicans of all stripes seem to be coming to the same conclusion—that the perfect should not be the enemy of the good, especially when the cost of failure is a sequel to President Clinton.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; giuliani; politics
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Christians Collaborators for Rudy Giuliani. Fixed.
41 posted on 04/25/2007 10:08:33 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Hillary, Rudy, Obama: The presidency is not a coronation.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Being Mayor of New Sodom and Gomorrah(NYC) does not qualify anyone to be president of the U.S... But it does speak that the candidate is tolerant of some really nasty stuff..


42 posted on 04/25/2007 10:09:04 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He’s pointing out the contradiction.

Christians voting for a man opposed to their beliefs on many levels makes about as much sense as Jews supporting the man who hates their very existence.

All the more reason to make sure a conservative wins the primary.


43 posted on 04/25/2007 10:09:33 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If we're going to start posting stuff from glorified blogs by unknown writers, could we at least make sure they have a slight idea of what they're talking about.

Meanwhile, Mitt Romney, the born-again religious conservative,

Anyone who has even a passing knowledge of Republican politics would know more than this.

44 posted on 04/25/2007 10:09:54 AM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: mariabush
Christians for Rudy? That is a oxymoron if I ever heard of one.

I'm a Christian for Giuliani.

45 posted on 04/25/2007 10:10:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Oh my. You admire Obama the socialist?

To exactly the same degree that I admire Rudy the socialist.

46 posted on 04/25/2007 10:11:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness)
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To: Ol' Sparky
When they are better alternatives, I might agree. I think we do in the primary round.

If he is the GOP nominee against a worse alternative of the Democrat Party, we must each me our own decisions.

47 posted on 04/25/2007 10:11:23 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Hillary, Rudy, Obama: The presidency is not a coronation.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm a Christian for Giuliani.

Okay then.

Why?

48 posted on 04/25/2007 10:11:56 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: garv
Meanwhile, Mitt Romney, the born-again religious conservative,

"Anyone who has even a passing knowledge of Republican politics would know more than this."

I believe he is referring to his policy changes on abortion and his hunting prowess.

49 posted on 04/25/2007 10:12:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
They got stuck with Kerry after the "scream."

False. There was a big shift toward Kerry (and Edwards) in the last week before the Iowa caucus, which Kerry won, and when asked, Democrat voters said when it came down to it, they were looking for electability.

THEN Dean started screaming.

50 posted on 04/25/2007 10:12:46 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Spineless & Unprincipled support Rudy?


51 posted on 04/25/2007 10:14:16 AM PDT by conserv8ive1 (Rudy and the Bots...blasting off to oblivion.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm a Christian for Giuliani.

That's kinda like the sheep rootin' for the wolf.

52 posted on 04/25/2007 10:14:16 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“cost of failure is a sequel to President Clinton”

No matter what, come November 0f 2008, I hope people on this board are rational enough to remember this line...

There is, from this Christian, another strong reason to support Rudy and it showed up on another thread this morning about his view of Peace when Palestine stops terrorizing Israel. Even Bush has been hesitant to talk tough against Palestine, but Rudy has not only talked tough, but ejected terrorists like Arafat from NYC and understands that we MUST support Israel against terrorism -it is all part and parcel of the war on terror.


53 posted on 04/25/2007 10:14:49 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Because he will support a strong national defense.

Because he supports lower taxes.

Because he supports educational choice.

Because he is a strong capitalist.

Because he will appoint conservatives to the Supreme Court.

Because he believes in state’s rights on life.

Because he is a law and order guy as he’s shown in NYC.

Because he believes in personal responsiblity.

Because he truly is a uniter and not a divider.


54 posted on 04/25/2007 10:16:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: princess leah

If it come down between Rino Rudy and Hitlary, I will go third party. They are so much alike that I see no real differnece between the two.


55 posted on 04/25/2007 10:16:44 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

HOw do you know he will appoint conservatives to the courts, when in NYC he appointed so many liberals? I think he is lying.


56 posted on 04/25/2007 10:18:04 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Because he believes in personal responsiblity.

How many wifes has this loser had? How many has he cheated on?
57 posted on 04/25/2007 10:19:08 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I believe he is referring to his policy changes on abortion and his hunting prowess.

I considered that and rejected it because it would be next to impossible to construct a more convoluted statement.

Mitt Romney is not considered a religious conservative by anyone, now or at anytime. If it was a snide attempt to attack Romney for flip-flopping the writer needs to take a look at Giuliani's recent statements on abortion and gun control.

58 posted on 04/25/2007 10:19:46 AM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: avacado
You interpreted that incorrectly. It simply means that Rudy was not involved in the Iraq War Resolution nor any decision to go to war such as Hillary, or McCain.

Sooner or later, Rudy's going to have to come out strongly one way or the other regarding the war. So far, he's left himself an out.

59 posted on 04/25/2007 10:20:20 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: JohnnyZ

>Barack Obama is more electable than the widely disliked Hillary.<

Sounds like a high school popularity contest to me. Obama oould beat Hillary because he’s sexier, and untried, while Hillary is too tried and too tired.

Now the mature voter will decide on an unblemished, experienced, capable, sincere and multi-issue candidate like Duncan Hunter.... who isn’t too bad, either, come to think about it! :o)


60 posted on 04/25/2007 10:20:26 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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