Posted on 04/25/2007 9:37:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
When I tell my liberal friends and associates that there are only a handful of Republicans that I would vote for before Hillary Clinton, the response is universally the same. I get a blank stare, followed by the question: "do you really think Rudy Giuliani can win the Republican nomination?"
If you've read about my infatuation with the Giuliani candidacy, you know my answer is YES. While Democrats like to fall in love with a candidate—Howard Dean or Senator Obama, for example—Republicans prefer picking winners.
With notable exceptions, like the 2002 California Gubernatorial race—Republicans recognize that they, like the Democrats, are a minority party. And yes, the Religious Right will vote for Rudy Giuliani just like they voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger in California in 2003 and again in 2006.
While most Republicans would rather support a candidate who opposed abortion rights and supported the Second Amendment, they also realize that, after seven years of George W. Bush's religious-right mobilization efforts, Americans would be hard pressed to elect such a person.
Republicans don't like being losers. Being losers is why people become Democrats.
Rudy Giuliani offers the best and most practical hope to fight off the evil empire of American politics—the Clinton Family—because he remains a national hero and is not tarnished by the Iraq war. What's more, Giuliani's "urban conservative" message of freedom for all evokes the origins of the Grand Old Party—while chipping away at the core voter base of the Democrats.
Giuliani's electability is what will get Religious voters to support him—and some will do so even enthusiastically.
If you don't believe me, then just follow the money. Campaign logic would say that Rudy Giuliani, the more moderate—dare I say liberal—Republican would be sweeping in campaign dollars from urban areas, where Republicans have more libertarian leanings. Meanwhile, Mitt Romney, the born-again religious conservative, should be raking in the dough from suburban, ex-urban and rural areas where like-minded folks call home.
Campaign logic, however, would be wrong.
Romney leads Republicans in fundraising nationwide—but also in Los Angeles and its most liberal zip-codes of Beverly Hills, Hollywood and the Westside. Giuliani, on the other hand, wins the fundraising battle in the neighborhoods West of the 405 of Brentwood and Pacific Palisades with a higher concentration of single-family homes.
This anomaly is more stark when you look at the numbers from across the State. Romney is raising more money in urban areas like Sacramento, San Diego and San Francisco. Giuliani is taking in the preponderance of dollars in faraway places like Yolo County, Ventura, Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Napa, Salinas, the Inland Empire and Fresno.
If you looked at a map of fundraising by County in California, Giuliani would win the Red Counties and Romney would take the Blue. It is as if Mitt Romney were the GOP's Phil Angelides.
Look no further than the case of Real Estate Developer/Hotelier C. Frederick Wehba if you need more convincing. The passionately evangelical Christian—who started his own church in Beverly Hills and is a major contributor to George Bush and the RNC. C. Frederick is backing Rudolph Giuliani in 2008, as are Bill Simon and many others in the Christian Community.
Without Ted Haggard to tell them how to vote, Republicans of all stripes seem to be coming to the same conclusion—that the perfect should not be the enemy of the good, especially when the cost of failure is a sequel to President Clinton.
Thank you, I appreciate your reply.
do you mean that biblicly?
I'm sorry, has it really come to this?
can i get their number please?
While there have been a number of books entitled the Devil’s Advocate, I do remember one from my youth that had the hero framed as a strident member of the oppressive forces that sought to bring down the vehicle he functioned in.
These supportive articles you have found, make a great lauching point for demonstrating the broad range of arguements agains the enivitablity of a Rudy nomination.
Sure, much of the thread is taken up with bashing you, personally, but setting all that junk aside, opponents of Rudy can almost view this as a service.
LOL, you sure like to stay in the thick of things don’t you gal.
LET'S GET THIS STRAIGHT ONCE AND FOR ALL:
A bit disturbing, I must confess.
heh, heh....
asshole, come
this is great
What makes a “Christian” is a choice to follow Christ....
Lots of people call themselves Christians but don’t understand this basic tenent.
So the premise of this thread is suspect.
I’m a Born-Again Conservative Evangelical and I will NOT vote for Rudy
Pass the popcorn please.
I can kill a thread like no ones business
haha
Ooooh, can I have some too?
Romney speaks the CEOs' language. He was one of them. So he gets their money.
It looks to me like Romney's positions are more socially conservative than Giuliani's, but maybe the CEOs know what they're paying for.
But I have to wonder whether Giuliani's views aren't also closer to those of the execs than to the man in the street. Rudy's supporters are responding to his perceived toughness in foreign affairs. He may not have that much to offer them in other areas.
Do we have anything other than popcorn?
I’m kinda tired of it. Too much over the past few days.
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I thought that was Squishy’s job.
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