Again? Isnt this like the third time?
Exactly.
Waxman wouldn't have a clear concept of "basic responsibility" if it stepped up and punched him in the nose.
So the familie's main beef is that the friendly fire aspect wasn't publicized intially or perhaps wasn't publicized quickly enough?
Don’t know what Pat would do. We will never know. I think the family is just upset because of the way they were lied to about the death. I am truly surprised that the Army did this. I typically think they are on the up and up on all information. The Army screwed up on this one.
I have the utmost respect and sympathy for the Tillman Family, and understand their ire at being lied to by the Government initially. It was a bad move on someone’s part. However, with that said, Friendly Fire injuries and deaths have unfortunately been part of every war and conflict known to mankind. The Government has come clean on the truth, so it is time for the family and everyone else to stop demanding hearings and apologies. I can’t help but think that Pat Tillman would be upset and embarrassed by his brother’s refusal to let the matter go, and his insistance on military bashing. Hopefully he can move forward and honor his brother as the hero he was in life, and try to accept the unbearable grief on his death.
There reaches a point where I loose sympathy for the Sheahans of the world. I’m just about there with these narcissists.
Thanks for posting this! I was in mid-read over on Yahoo, when our power went “poof!” When I got it back, and got the computer rebooted and all, there was a different article on Yahoo.
And now, that I look again...the new article is gone, and there is a 3rd in its place...which seems to be a combination of the other two. But, I am always bugged if I can’t finish reading something I started (especially if it is taken away from me in mid-sentence! :P
Thanks again! :)
I’m not sure I get it. Sure, at first they announced merely that he was killed in action. But didn’t it come out within a couple of weeks that it had in fact been friendy fire?
Wouldn’t there have be an investigation before an official determination of fratricide was announced?
So what?
Either his brother needs to be educated regarding combat (including,unfortunately,the fact that "friendly fire" incidents *do* happen) or else he needs to be bi*chslapped for being a worthless punk.
“Treason helps me deal with my pain/grief! Don’t question my motives!”
I see that Jessica Lynch testified and said that she was no hero, that she ducked and prayed and didn’t shoot, like Pentagon reports said she did.
Has anyone seen any threads on this?
The murky, heroic, rendition was circulated for a short time, if I remember correctly. Then the actual tragic facts came out later. So what is the problem? Part of me wishes a man who gave up his life did so in some storybook way. But in life tragic things happen. The question is: Why don’t thy just let it rest?
So it was fratricide. Happens. The real question is was he fragged?
His Death was still heroic - he was trying his best to protect his soldiers - it was unfortunate that because he had an Afghan Soldier with him, his own compatriates who were under fire, mistook him for Taliban and opened fire on him.
Stonewall Jackson had a similar end and he is no less of a hero. I believe the bullet that got him was from his own troops.
Whoever is in charge of these ‘war-stories’ is quiet stupid and goes for short term glory and long term embarrassment.
Here are few that I can remember that started out as dramatic heart wrenching stories and then required shameful back pedalling, Jessica, Conversation with British Pilot during Bush’s surprise Thanks giving trip to Iraq, Tillman.
Enough already you STUPID MORON, stop pedalling crap and digging bigger hole for administration.
Waxman's investigation is not seeking to get at the Truth. They are seeking to put the worst possible face on this incident that the facts will allow. Frankly, I don't have a hard time believing that General McChrystal's memo to Gen. Abizaid had not been seen by the President (White House) just 2 days later. I'd have been amazed if they had.
BTW, when is Jessica Lynch giving her Silver Star back?
What would that be, Senator? Any idea?
The traditional approach to friendly fire and accidents has been to tell the family a white lie to the effect that their loved one died heroically in combat. These days, some people call that a cover-up. I guess in the future, Congress will put up a law requiring the Army to tell parents that an M1 made a meat pie out of their son. There’s no two ways about it - Pat Tillman’s kin are a bunch of narcissists who can’t see the truth staring them in the face.