Posted on 04/24/2007 7:11:23 AM PDT by jveritas
I was thinking this suspect (Ahmad sameer)
“Another suspect in the case called Ahmad sameer said he was trained in Iraq at the hands of one assistant for al-Zarqawi and he worked in explosives manufacturing for two months in a factory in al-Ramtha city near the Jordanian- Syrian borders.”
It is very possible Chris.
However many in the CIA think that they are at war with the Bush administration more so than the terrorists.
Nonesense.
No. The whole Plame “incident” was political in nature and had almost nothing to do with Intel.
Of course there are some who are not saluting the GHWB flag and working to prop up the executive branch, but by the end of the day the Intelligence community is pulling all the strings............
Your comment about GHWB is very ridiculous.
Most in the CIA are doing there Patriotic Duty but some are working directly or indirectly to undermine the war on terror, yes there are liberal democrats in the CIA who are against the war.
You have no idea what you are talking about. This is not true.
Your comment about GHWB is very ridiculous. - same as above.
Most in the CIA are doing there Patriotic Duty but some are working directly or indirectly to undermine the war on terror, yes there are liberal democrats in the CIA who are against the war.
As a broad statement, I cannot disagree. However, it is important to observe that those who are “working to undermine the war on terror” are acting within their scope of operation and are NOT acting as rogue agents...........
Guess all the libs forgot about this one too:
Beginning in the morning on March 16, 1988 and continuing all night, the Iraqis rained down volley after volley of bombs filled with a deadly mixture of mustard gas and nerve agents on Halabja. Immediate effects of the chemicals included blindness, vomiting, blisters, convulsions, and asphyxiation. Approximately 5,000 women, men, and children died within days of the attacks. Long-term effects included permanent blindness, cancer, and birth defects. An estimated 10,000 lived, but live daily with the disfigurement and sicknesses from the chemical weapons.
Sounds like terrorism to me.
What do you mean?
No doubt.
What do you mean?
those who are “working to undermine the war on terror” are acting within their scope of operation and are NOT acting as rogue agents
Pretty clear don’t you think?
Sometimes playing both sides against the middle is a desired tactic.........
That would be very interesting. Sort of "A Guide to Saddam's WMD & International Terrorism."
Maybe we should chip in and send it to all journalists.
Such a time, when PBS even (by government proxy) censors now, news about the real threat we face in Islamofascism, hydra-headed though it may be.
...but other than that, he was an excellent leader for Iraq. And other than the thousands he gassed to death, had shot, or fed to a wood chipper, there was no killing going on in Iraq as there is now...
You are writing the history books of the future. Many thanks.
I bet it would be nice to get your hands on this document?
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2003/04/26/saddam_osama030426.html#skip300x250
Saddam, bin Laden link found: Canadian reporter
Last Updated: Monday, April 28, 2003 | 10:28 AM ET
CBC News
Secret documents uncovered in the bombed headquarters of Iraq’s former spy agency show the first clear link between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden’s terrorist network, according to a Canadian journalist.
Mitch Potter, a foreign correspondent with the Toronto Star, says he discovered the file while digging through what’s left of the Mukhabarat intelligence office. The CIA had already looked over the rubble and left.
The document, which refers to an al-Qaeda envoy’s visit to Iraq in 1998, had bin Laden’s name amateurishly covered with liquid whiteout, Potter told CBC Newsworld Saturday night.
“Very gingerly we lifted up all the liquid paper and revealed three times bin Laden’s name,” he said in a telephone interview from Baghdad.
“It’s a top secret file, it was marked top secret, and of course they went to great lengths to try to mask the contents of it.
“We just happened to have a very, very diligent interpreter with us today who went that extra mile and found something that was not meant for our eyes.”
Several other Arabic translators have since been shown the document and confirmed that bin Laden’s name is on it, according to the newspaper.
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The Star published Potter’s full account of the discovery on Sunday. Another journalist, Inigo Gilmore of London’s Sunday Telegraph, was present when the file was found.
The handwritten document describes the al-Qaeda operative’s visit to Iraq, according to Potter. It says the purpose was “to gain the knowledge of the message from bin Laden, and to convey to his envoy an oral message from us to bin Laden.”
The United States has long alleged a connection between Iraq’s former leader and terrorist groups like al-Qaeda. Washington said one of its reasons for using military force to topple Saddam’s regime was because he had weapons of mass destruction that could end up in the hands of people like bin Laden. Saddam denied possessing any such weapons, or of having ties with al-Qaeda’s Sept. 11 attacks against the U.S.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/2979405.stm
Iraq files ‘show al-Qaeda link’
Documents found in Baghdad show a link between Saddam Hussein’s fallen regime and al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden, according to a UK newspaper.
The Sunday Telegraph says reporter Inigo Gilmore discovered the files in the bombed headquarters of the Mukhabarat, the feared Iraqi intelligence service.
It says the files, in Arabic, show an al-Qaeda envoy was invited to visit Baghdad secretly in March 1998.
The report comes only days after its sister paper, the Daily Telegraph claimed to have unearthed documents showing left-wing Labour MP George Galloway received money from the Iraqi regime.
Mr Galloway denies the claims and plans to sue the paper for libel.
These latest documents suggest Iraqi officials wanted to pass on an oral message to set up a direct meeting with Bin Laden.
The 1998 visit described in the documents would have taken place before Washington blamed Bin Laden for the bombings of two US embassies in Africa later that year.
Correction fluid
Mr Gilmore told the BBC he found the documents after being allowed into the intelligence headquarters in Baghdad by US troops guarding the site.
He smuggled the papers back to his hotel where his translator translated them into English.
Perhaps significantly the CIA had been through many of these buildings but they seem to have missed this particular document
Inigo Gilmore
Sunday Telegraph
He told the BBC: “I noticed on some of the documents there were some marks erased out... we scraped away with a razor and underneath we found the name Bin Laden three times and obviously realised this was highly significant.
“These documents explain that an envoy from Bin Laden came to Iraq in March 1998 to discuss contact between al-Qaeda and Iraqi intelligence.
“It also talks about sending an oral message back to Bin Laden and it furthermore discuss the idea of setting up a direct meeting with Bin Laden himself.”
In one document quoted by the paper an Iraqi official wrote:
“We suggest permission to call the Khartoum station [Iraq’s intelligence office in Sudan] to facilitate the travel arrangements for the above-mentioned person to Iraq.
“And that our body carry all the travel and hotel costs inside Iraq to gain the knowledge of the message from Bin Laden and to convey to his envoy an oral message from us to Bin Laden.”
Denial
Mr Gilmore said the document was highly significant given the United States’ claims of links between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
He said: “I have worked in the Middle East for many years and like many other journalists was very sceptical about American claims.
“However, having found these documents, and reviewed them and had several people translate them for accuracy it does seem very credible that this contact was made in 1998 and perhaps followed up afterwards.
“We don’t have any evidence of that.”
Mr Gilmore said he was not out to provide propaganda for the US but the documents could be something they would want to use to back up their claims.
He said: “Perhaps significantly the CIA had been through many of these buildings but they seem to have missed this particular document.
“But it is pretty much pot luck. We have been through many buildings this week and this is the first significant thing we have found.”
Before the war Saddam Hussein made it clear he had no links with al-Qaeda.
During an interview with former British MP Tony Benn, he said: “If we had a relationship with al-Qaeda, and we believed in that relationship, we would not be ashamed to admit it.”
I will try to contact the reporter at the Toronto Star and see if he has the original document in Arabic.
thank you.
Has there been any new links discovered between Iraq and WTC bombing?
More from Mark Eichenlaubs Blog that includes the CBC document
5/31/2006
Compartmentalizing information: inside both al Qaeda and the former Baath party regime in Iraq
http://markeichenlaub.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_archive.html
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