A boy dies, and a gun debate is reignited

Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | April 24, 2007 | Damian G. Guevara and Patrick O'Donnell

[absolootezer0]

It would have been interesting to have the reporter ask this young lady exactly what she thinks her cousin was doing on someone else's porch pointing a gun at the resident.

reporter may be dumb, but he ain't stupid. asking a hard question like that probably would have gotten him beaten down, possibly shot.

[B4Ranch]

City prosecutors decided Monday that Wells, 25, was justified and would not be charged for what appears to be the first time a concealed-carry permit holder has shot and killed an attacker.

>His cousin, Tameka Foster, 21, questioned why police did not punish Buford's shooter. "They let that man run out freely," Foster said. "My cousin is dead."<

Wells is too white for Tameka Foster! A 25 year old black man with a permit to carry shows that he hasn't been involved in a life of drugs and crime. He more than likely has been continiously gainfully employed. By golly, he probably graduated high school and may just have some college under his belt too.

[FreedomPoster]

What an idiot headline. There’s no reason whatsoever that this should reignite any debate.

[MuttTheHoople]

A 25 year old black man with a permit to carry shows that he hasn't been involved in a life of drugs and crime. He more than likely has been continiously gainfully employed. By golly, he probably graduated high school and may just have some college under his belt too.

HE'D HAVE NO STREET CRED! HE WOULDN'T HAVE HIS CRONK ON! HE WOULD DIZZLE FO SHIZZLE! TAMEKA WOULDN'T DROP HER 40 TO CHASE THAT!

[Lazamataz]

Not cronk. Crunk.

Please refer to your Ebonicks Dickshunary.

[MuttTheHoople]

Fo shizzle my badizzle.

[Eagle Eye]

I’ll bet there’s now a couple people who think twice before robbing a Cleveland man on his porch.

And one that won’t have to.

[Larry Lucido]

Tommy says it's Kronk. Any questions?

[ASOC]

Here is a link for what happen after the gunfight

http://www.reactuate.com/2007/02/20/what-happens-after-the-gun-fight/

Lest you think the cops will pin a medal on you after you “bust a cap” on a bad guy.

Shoot someone and count on:
Going to jail
Being booked
Going to a bond hearing
Having to pay for your own lawyer
Having a Grand Jury hear the case (unless lucky enough to have DA dismiss charges)
Go to trial.

Maybe even go to jail for years.

And worry that relatives of the POS you dropped will be suing you for ‘wrongful death’ in civil court.

But, hey, at least you will be alive to enjoy all the new people you will meet after your close encounter of the gun kind.

Despite all this, I still carry as I refuse to be a vitim!

[Lazamataz]

I won’t be bossed around by a woman.

[darkangel82]

Obviously this 21 year old didn't learn much in civics class or probably any other class.

Probably a dropout, like so many in Cleveland.

[Paleo Conservative]

Shoot someone and count on:
Going to jail
Being booked
Going to a bond hearing
Having to pay for your own lawyer
Having a Grand Jury hear the case (unless lucky enough to have DA dismiss charges)
Go to trial.

Not in Texas.

[The KG9 Kid]

"... He had a permit to carry his gun, and he had the gun on him when a pair of teenage thieves approached him Saturday night on his front porch in Cleveland.

When one of the youths pulled a gun, Wells drew his and shot one of the boys several times in the chest, police said. Arthur Buford, 15, died after stumbling away and collapsing on a sidewalk near East 134th Street and Kinsman Road. "

Bah. Hah. HAH.

I think that we have stumbled onto the solution to urban schoolroom overcrowding.

[Fudd]

Schoolroom overcrowding is not an issue in Cleveland schools. The city's population has been declining for at least 20 years.

[Walkingfeather]

Back down cowboy we are on the same side with this...

[Fairview]

My post wasn’t any attack or even a debate with you; it was just that I was using a quote in your post, and I hit “reply.” Sorry for the misunderstanding. And I’m a cowgirl, not a cowboy. ;-)

[darkangel82]

That and the fact that Cleveland schools are so awful, 2/3rds of the kids go to charter schools.

[Dont Mention the War]

The MSM is free to use this as an excuse to “reignite the gun debate” all it wants. But the law is the law. His actions were legal. The end.

[Kozak]

They let that man run out freely," Foster said. "My cousin (the thief )is dead."

So what's the problem?

[SuziQ]

Opponents said it took Buford's - that the 15-year-old might be alive if a citizen had not been armed.

The most important thing is that he might be alive had he not been an idiot and pulled a gun on a homeowner sitting on his own porch.