A boy dies, and a gun debate is reignited

Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | April 24, 2007 | Damian G. Guevara and Patrick O'Donnell

[nodumbblonde]

AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!

I’m sorry, but I feel much better now. How can people not get this??? I’m not being rhetorical. How can someone be so screwed up that they feel nothing but sorrow and empathy for the perpetrator and place all blame directly on the intended victim?

I just can’t wrap my mind around that way of thinking! :\

[Paleo Conservative]

His cousin, Tameka Foster, 21, questioned why police did not punish Buford's shooter.

What idiots. Police don't prosecute crimes. They enforce laws and arrest people so they can be brought to justice. It is the prosecutor ane even a grand jurys who decide whether to prosecute. Even if someone is convicted of a crime, it isn't the police department that runs the prison. Obviously this 21 year old didn't learn much in civics class or probably any other class.

[ken21]

yeah, yeah, yeah, ...

i tell my democrap-gun hating friends:

compare the number of murders by hitler, stalin, mao, fidel castro ad infinitum

against the number of gun deaths in the u.s.

the truth is folks, liberals prefer the millions of dead in communist countries.

[Lazamataz]

When one of the youths pulled a gun, Wells drew his and shot one of the boys several times in the chest...... Gun supporters said the weapon saved Wells' life. Opponents said it took Buford's - that the 15-year-old might be alive if a citizen had not been armed.

COMPLETELY ignoring the fact that WELLS WOULD BE DEAD IF HE WASN'T ARMED!!!

Gun control advocates are criminal sympathizers. I'd wager most of them are criminals themselves.

They sure seem to side with the criminal in every case.

[Lazamataz]

Damian G. Guevara and Patrick O'Donnel

These are the authors.

Is there any reason we can't all ask these two Fine Examples of Media Sanity (FEMS for short) why they side with the criminal in this article?

[untrained skeptic]

And everybody's crying because the robber is the one who got shot.

Not everyone.

Likely very few.

Just some morally depraved individuals such as his cousin, the media, and gun control advocates.

[tioga]

DO NOT forget the liberals who insist the convicted felons in prison MUST VOTE!..

[stevio]

A “boy” dies, made it sound like it was an accident. Open and closed case of self-defense. How can there be any debate? Punks.

[CaptRon]

An angry throng of about 30 youths gathered Monday and set up a memorial at the intersection where Buford, a freshman at John F. Kennedy High School, died.

In general I'm getting pretty tired of these impromptu "memorials". It seems they usually memorialize someone who probably doesn't merit such notoriety or whose demise was his own fault. But this case is probably the most ridiculous I've ever seen.

The only thing missing here is a testimonial as to what a good guy and a pillar of the community this loser was.

[MuttTheHoople]

I believe Gun Control is very important. It's important that you have a comfortable grip on the weapon, and are able to keep the pistol still so you can hit center mass.

When I was in the National Guard, I was slotted to a billet where I had to fire a 9 mm, and they took away my M-16. Since I had no training on a pistol, I asked a Sergeant who was a policeman in civilian life how to hold it. He showed me the Weaver Grip. Thanks to him, I fired expert.

Good to see armed citizens exercising the proper method of Gun Control. 8^D

[Freee-dame]

When one of the youths pulled a gun

Headline says "boy". The use of words like kid, youth and boy certainly have connotations different from gun-toting-home-invader, even if young.

Hopefully others will learn from this. It is sad that this would-be robber had to learn such a hard way.

[Hazcat]

"So it's better that the gun toting 15 year old thug be alive, and the innocent civilian be dead?" Some people would certainly be happier if that were the case. jw

Sure. If the good guy dies then they have more of a reason to scream (yes I meant to use that word) for more gun control. Having the good guy win makes it much more difficult.

Hypocritical retards!

[Paleo Conservative]

Both sides of the gun debate said it was sad that a teenager died.

Why? He was headed in the wrong direction and probably would have ended up murdering someone in the future. Darwinian selection in action.

[Mopp4]

Opponents said it took Buford's - that the 15-year-old might be alive if a citizen had not been armed.

This type of logic is just beyond belief. I can only shake my head and wonder what the hell happened to this country....

[Fairview]

"...the 15-year-old might be alive if a citizen had not been armed.”

Yes, and the 15-year-old might be alive if he hadn't tried to rob a citizen. His choice.

[Paleo Conservative]

Toby Hoover, of the Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence, said she had not heard of any other fatal shooting involving a concealed-carry permit holder.

"This is one of the few where they actually used it to stop a crime," Hoover said.

But, she said, "there's still a dead kid here."

Another "child" killed by guns.

[GuineaRabbit]

His cousin, Tameka Foster, 21, questioned why police did not punish Buford's shooter. "They let that man run out freely," Foster said. "My cousin is dead." Her cousin might be alive if she turned him in to the cops and gotten him straightened out. But that disgusting hip-hop culture teaches them 'not to snitch' or they be 'acting all white'.

[Fee]

This is the difference between Asian values and inner city values. The VT shooter’s family was so ashamed by what their son did, that they and the Korean community profusely apologized to the public. Contrast that with the inner city values, the criminal’s family stubbornly refuses to acknowledge the crime (attempted armed robbery) and the community falls in line based on tribal (racial) loyalty to the dead perp.

[bigred41]

“But I hope the police give him his pistol back soon. He’ll probably need it to protect himself from some of the “angry youths” who were memorializing the violent predator.”
“This is why you should always keep a backup weapon. Hopefully, Mr Wells has one so as to be prepared. “

He better also get a pretty good lawyer-that family is going to sue him to kingdom come, and the way the court system is-they will probably win. Big.

[MD_Willington_1976]

No kidding, if you don’t want to play with the big kids, then stay out of the game...

boo hoo

where’s my fiddle.