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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: rockrr

And that FACT that so many of the rudy supporters felt threatened by, and in fact came and argued against, his post, was an eye-opener for me.


3,701 posted on 04/22/2007 8:01:08 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: EternalHope

“This is the most depressing, negative, and destructive thread I have ever seen on FR.”

I thought “hope springs eternal” was in now - cmon cheer up.


3,702 posted on 04/22/2007 8:01:45 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: flashbunny

Asked whether the DNA samples from children in support cases should also be given to law enforcement agencies, the Mayor said: “The same way fingerprints are available, DNA should be available.” He called DNA tests “a wonderful protection for the innocent and another method of catching the guilty,” as well as a tool for determining paternity.

When asked whether all children should have DNA tests at birth, the Mayor said: “I don’t know that that’s the proposal, but I would have no problem with that, or fingerprinting all children. We go through a massive effort to try to fingerprint large numbers of children” now, he said, “so in case they are lost they can be found again or in case if they are kidnapped they can be found again. There is absolutely no reason why people should be afraid of being identified.”

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“It’s not invasive,” the Mayor said. “It doesn’t invade any right of privacy. You don’t have a right not to be identified. I don’t remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified.”

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OK. Point well taken.

Maybe I should have made myself clearer. When I referenced the nanny state, I was referring to treating adults like adults, not treating children and newborns like adults.


3,703 posted on 04/22/2007 8:01:49 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: mkjessup

because when I clicked his name, I got that he’d been banned/suspended


3,704 posted on 04/22/2007 8:01:52 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: flashbunny; mkjessup
MiaT was a surprise, her logic that unless you support abortionist Rudy over abortionist Hillary you were responsible for aborting babies was bizarre.

I’m glad this has come to a head, if Rudy’s supporter’s want to promote him, at least be honest. Vote for Rudy!! he’s not as corrupt as Hillary. I was sick of them claiming that my entire POV was one meaningless issue when compared to the supreme being Rudy.

3,705 posted on 04/22/2007 8:01:56 PM PDT by Dstorm
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To: onyx

Amen. Last year I thought a Hillary presidency was unfathomable...today, it is very likely. We should all be very, very afraid.


3,706 posted on 04/22/2007 8:01:58 PM PDT by Hildy ("man's reach exceeds his grasp"? It's a lie: man's grasp exceeds his nerve.)
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To: mware

Nice name dropping.


3,707 posted on 04/22/2007 8:02:18 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: cicero's_son

Nope. I guess I didn’t get that memo.


3,708 posted on 04/22/2007 8:02:27 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"But she got really mean all of the sudden for some reason. A lot of the women did, it was uncharacteristic."

I noticed that as well.

3,709 posted on 04/22/2007 8:02:28 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: backtothestreets

What you see in the Constitution is Liberal in the classic sense, not the modern-day perversion of “liberal,” which is nothing but a pretense to gain power.


3,710 posted on 04/22/2007 8:02:39 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: Charles Henrickson
In the latest FR poll, Giuliani is only getting about 6-7% of members' opinion. The vast majority of us are NOT on board with Rudy the RINO. I would vote third party before I would vote for a pro-abort, pro-homo candidate who doesn't understand the Constitution.

As would I. I can not vote for a pro infanticide candidate. I know that someday I will have to stand before the gates of heaven, and be judged by God. Christ died for my sins, but that doesn't mean I have a right to pile them on.

3,711 posted on 04/22/2007 8:03:09 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: mkjessup
C'mon now son, you shouldn't be telling tall tales like that.

Who are you and what have you done to promote Conservatism? Nothing. LOL.
3,712 posted on 04/22/2007 8:03:20 PM PDT by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
California has always been one of the most liberal states in the country....I grew up there.

I grew up in California. My mother and father grew up here. My grandmother grew up here. Her father and his father grew up up here. Her husband, my grandfather, also grew up here, as did his parents and grandparents.

You are mistaken when you say "California has always been one of the most liberal states in the county." It was because California was pioneered by adventurous, risk-taking CAPITALISTS with conservative politics -- people like my great-great grandfathers, both agriculturalists -- that it became such a successful and prosperous place that all the East Coast and Miswestern liberals, risk-averse people who couldn't pioneer their way out of a wet paper bag, flocked to in later years.

3,713 posted on 04/22/2007 8:03:46 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: Spiff

Yes. Stop making stupid presumptions to make yourself feel like you’re better than others, when you’re not.


3,714 posted on 04/22/2007 8:03:51 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: veronica

FWIW, Hunter is my front-runner and I thought your joke was cute .... :)


3,715 posted on 04/22/2007 8:03:55 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

So the parents of the children don’t get to be treated like adults?


3,716 posted on 04/22/2007 8:04:02 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: veronica
How can Rudy possibly expect to win without Texas?

You don't really think that Rudy would take Texas, do you?
3,717 posted on 04/22/2007 8:04:09 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: veronica
How can Rudy possibly expect to win without Texas?

You don't really think that Rudy would take Texas, do you?
3,718 posted on 04/22/2007 8:04:14 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Registered

“and factioning off of long time Freepers here.”

Let’s be clear. They weren’t factioned off. They set out to get zotted and they did. Nobody’d fault but their own.


3,719 posted on 04/22/2007 8:04:30 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

“When I referenced the nanny state, I was referring to treating adults like adults, not treating children and newborns like adults.”

Then try this one:

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0034,katz,17581,1.html

Honestly, it’s hard to find any instance, except on abortion, where Rudy has come down on the side of ‘less government interference is better’.


3,720 posted on 04/22/2007 8:04:31 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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