anyone here not like being hugged as a kid, or fight with their siblings? yep you sir.gal are a potential mass murderer.
Cut 'em a little slack, eh ? They aren't making excuses for him and are mortified at being related to the scumbag.
They were supposed to predict he'd be a mass murderer ?
I feel first for the victims' friends and relatives, then for the victims, but also for this family. You'd want to crawl into a hole and die.
Please. This kid spent his childhood in near total silence. He clearly wasn’t wired right from day one. The only strange thing is that it took him this long to blow.
If one of my sons punched their sister, or any girl for that matter, with “shocking force” they know they would be punished, lovingly, with shocking rapidity. Consequently, they have grown into fine young gentlemen.
Most of them do as kids.
Leni
mildly autistic?
aspergers's syndrome?
One common thread in many violent killers is that they were violent to animals growing up. I’m not talking about going hunting and shooting Bambi. I’m talking about finding stray cats, dogs, etc. and killing them in painful, torturous ways to watch them suffer and die. The boy gets pleasure out of watching the animal’s obvious fear and pain. They also get a sense of power knowing they can look the animal in the eye and decide whether and how much it will suffer.
It isn’t long before they decide to try that with people instead of animals.
Most of those, however, wind up being serial killers (multiple victims killed individually spread out over weeks, months or years) as opposed to “spree” killers (multiple victims killed in a relatively short time span, often concluding with the killer’s own murder/suicide).
My point is that childhood incidents *can* help identify potential mass killers.
I really expected to read something in regards to how he brutalized animals when he was a kid. Move on, nothing here.
They should have made his college education conditional on his getting treatment. Going to college is a privilege, not a right. School is expensive, what with dormitory and meals (which they were paying for, I'm assuming). They could have said, if you don't get treatment, you don't go to college. Why didn't they do that? You can't let good grades excuse bad behavior.
I’m sorry I read this thread.
What? Even little old Auntie knew the kid was nutso years ago before they immigrated. And the excuses start...
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David Gearheart, who also attended middle school with Cho, said he talked to Cho once or twice, but that talking to him was just that -– talking to somebody rather than with somebody.
"He had a lot of crazy writings in his notebook and stuff, how he hated Americans," Gearheart said.
Linton said Cho was once reported to the principal for writing down the names of people he was supposedly planning to kill.
"It was like a hit list," Linton said. "They found one in his locker."
Linton said people "constantly" talked about how Cho might be the type of person that would one day attempt to kill someone. http://www.cavalierdaily.com/CVArticle.asp?ID=30192&pid=1583
I was thinking the same thing. I’m not thrilled about anyone besides my husband or kids hugging me. What is shocking? My sisters and I got into some really bad fights when we were younger. I’m not excusing this killer but just pointing out that the media is throwing out stuff that is normal.
“Despite signs of trouble, Cho’s mother didn’t seek treatment for him because he did well in school, the Washington Post reports.”
I think some of this is a cultural problem, as far as I know with Chinese and Koreans (in a general and stereotypical sense, but from experience as well) but maybe with some other Asian groups too.
Psychology, psychiatry and “mental health” psychological analysis and treatment, in the general sense (as opposed to the sense they are applied by the totalitarians in China) are still a predominately “western” feature of family life in the personal opinions of many Asians.
For many, most such “attitude” problems of children and young adults are handled in the family or not at all, and no one wants to bring “outsiders”, even western “professionals”, into it. Many Asian families do not “reach out” with these problems, particularly the more “traditional” and “conservative” (culturally) they are.
That is not to say that many westerners do not feel the same way. Many do.
I just think there is a larger level of aversion to “reaching out” with “mental health” issues among more Asians than among westerners.
Like some on this thread, nothing can diminish my anguish for the victims and their families, nor my belief that they will be foremost in our prayers, and they should be.
But, I too, today, must pray for Cho’s family, because in the end everything was a choice that he and he alone made, not them.
And yet the public focus on them, as Cho’s family is unavoidable and it must be nearly as heart wrenching for them as it is for the families of the victims, for there is not a thing they can say or do to alter their son’s guilt, a guilt that it is now being emotionally absorbed by them.
Yeah that is typical. Male or introverted behavior is being defined as aberrant when most introverts are the nicest people you could meet till they get bullied and made fun of without end. All they want is to be left alone and go out of their way not to bring attention to themselves but that doesn’t work. More aggressive males who have never been taught any manners target them. So the shy kid who was probably the most nonviolent stores the anger the hate and feels even more isolated from the world until something sets him off.
What I believe set Cho off was probably the deal with the girls. He was trying to get a girlfriend and didn’t know how to approach it and then he writes plays and is sent away to be mentally evaluated when he wrote nothing different than a Tarantino. I don’t excuse anything he did. He made a choice to be a murderer. I don’t however feel comfortable automatically classifying someone as “crazy” when I’m sure he knew and made a clear decision to do what he did. He was “getting even”.
Hey, hotshot . . . knee jerk responses can be hazardous to your charitable personna . . . if you had/have one.
As Dr Murray Banks used to say . . .
“What is it that the insane do that you don’t do?”
“Not a blessed thing! It’s only a question of degree.”
Asian kids who immigrate and don’t end up as engineers are weird.
sounds like he may have had some type of autism or aspergers.
As one of five, I got into rumbles with my siblings and have the scars to prove it.
But nothing is remembered by me as "shocking."
Just because he began this behavior as a child does not mean that its roots weren't evil.
A Bad Seed ?