Move on from abortion? Not on your life!

vanity | April 20, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

I hate to say it again, but guess it has to be said:

Free Republic is a conservative site.

As a conservative site, we are pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty, pro-America.

Like-minded folks know immediately what this means and why we will never "move on from abortion" as Rudy Giuliani and his supporters ask us to do.

Think about it.

You might as well be asking us to deny God. To deny the Creator that gave us life and liberty. To give up our children. To surrender our country to the left. To give up our freedom. To give up our faith and our belief in God's Word.

Why insult us like this?

IMHO, the root difference between conservatism and liberalism IS our belief in God. For the most part, we conservatives defend our Christian/Judeo founding and our God-centered traditional American society and family values system, and the belief that our most fundamental rights were bestowed upon us by our Creator. Rights given by man can be taken by man. Rights bestowed by God are unalienable rights.

Liberals, on the other hand, especially the Marxist/socialist liberal leadership and the big leftist feminist, homosexualist, abortionist, anti-religion organizations deny God exists. They deny our Christian/Judeo heritage, work overtime to destroy our traditional family values, and seek to destroy our freedoms, including, and especially our right to the free exercise of religion.

Our deeply rooted conservative belief in God and refusal to roll over for feminism, abortionism, homosexualism, socialism, etc., is the only thing stopping the left from completely overwhelming us with their godless, socialist perversions and completely wiping out our traditional Christian/Judeo God-centered free society.

If we cave-in to the left by nominating a supporter of abortion rights, gay rights, gun control, illegal aliens, etc., as our candidate for the presidency and de facto leader of the Republican party, then we will have destroyed our own pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty movement and will have destroyed all of our prior pro-life, pro family, pro-liberty work. The Republican party will have made itself a joke. It'll be left standing for nothing. Worse, it'll be left standing with NARAL, NOW, the ACLU, and every other feminist/homosexualist Marxist/socialist communist group.

Surrender to the abortionists? Not on your life!

This is Free Republic. We ARE the dissent! We fight for life and liberty! We fight for our traditional American family values! We proudly and diligently defend our Christian/Judeo heritage, our country, our constitution, and our right to be free and to freely worship our God!

IMHO, those of you who cannot or will not understand these simple truths will never understand what FR is all about, what the pro-life movement is all about, what conservatism is all about, or even what freedom is all about.

[mkjessup]

You got a lot of balls suggesting that other Freepers be banned.

You have no idea. LOL

Why is that idea so shocking to you? Who do you think owns this website anyway? It ain't you and it ain't me. It is noneother than Jim Robinson, and HE is the sole and final arbiter of what is, and what is not acceptable on HIS website.

You got not quite 10 percent of Freepers who have all but pledged their first born for Rudy Giuliani, a liberal-RINO if there ever WAS one, and day-in and day-out, they post and re-post the same inane and insane material and it isn't even original, it's the same ol' 'Only Rudy Can Save Us From Hillary' claptrap, and when conservative (and let me be precise about that, REAL conservative) Freepers refuse to go along with the RudyToody bandwagon, they are assailed as 'socons', sneered at as 'evangelicals', 'one issue voters', ad nauseum, ad infinitum, and inevitably they follow up by attempting to smear REAL conservative candidates in their lame efforts to boost their boy Rudy.

Now if that isn't disruptive to a conservative website, you tell me what is.

Free Republic is not about absolute, unrestricted, no-holds-barred free speech, it is NOT the equivalent of some public square where anyone can grab the podium and start screaming about whatever is on their mind, Howlin, you've been around long enough to KNOW that this is a conservative website, so why should Jim Robinson be expected to have infinite reserves of patience and tolerance for these Rudy insurgents who are determined to undermine the premiere conservative website on the net, to hijack as much bandwidth as possible to promote their liberal-RINO-candidate, all the while hurling insults, invective and damnation at REAL conservatives who do NOT think it is OK to murder an unborn child, do NOT want to restrict the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, do NOT think that homosexuals ought to be given special protections and legitimacy for their depraved lifestyles?

Are you getting the picture here?

Free Republic is Jim Robinson's website, and his banning of 'CeltJewLibertarian' in my opinion, was a good thing. CJL doesn't 'approve' of FR's founding principles. Free Republic didn't 'change' as he claimed, *he* changed, and shifted to the left.

I say bon voyage, and he should be just the first of many to receive our fond farewells.

That's just my opinion, it's JimRob who makes the call.

And that's the way it should be, don't you agree?

[mkjessup]

Your clock is ticking troll.

[Howlin]

I don’t think it’s your PLACE to even suggest who should and shouldn’t be banned.

Unless, of course, you want to submit your name for a vote, too.

Wanna do that?

[jwalsh07]

Conservatives should not ask other conservatives to vote for liberals. Social conservatives should not expect fiscal conservatives to vote for a socially conservative, fiscal liberal and fiscal conservatives should not expect social conservatives to vote for fiscally conservative, social liberals.

I think it's bad manners and bad for conservatism either way.

[KevinDavis]

So people who don’t believe in certain things should be banned from here???

[Kevmo]

What if it’s “who don’t believe in certain things” AND those same folks are exhibiting bad manners, as JWalsh points out? That would be more in alignment with what is really going on in Free Republic today.

[mkjessup]

I don’t think it’s your PLACE to even suggest who should and shouldn’t be banned. Unless, of course, you want to submit your name for a vote, too. Wanna do that?

Every time I post, I'm submitting my name to a 'vote' by the moderators and ultimately to JimRob as to whether my post remains, is deleted, or if they think I'm so far off the reservation, that I'm banned. It's the same deal with you, or did your post #389 slip your mind that quickly?

If I see liberal-RINOs trying to take over this website, I'm not about to stay silent about it, and if I think they should be banned, I'll say that, and that's my right to say it, just as you have your right NOT to say it if you don't think it's your 'place' (or my 'place') to do so.

Now just for grins, take a look at the Republican Party as it exists today. Specifically the U.S. Senate. Can you honestly tell me that you think that RINO-Senators like Hagel, McCain, Specter, etc., are an ASSET? They are no more conservative than Giuliani is! And the GOP would be better off if they were expelled from the GOP, stripped of that 'R' after their name, and their constituents instructed to consider them 'Independents'.

You see where we're going here? If an individual, be they an elected alleged Republican, demonstrate that they have more in common with, and make common cause with, the opposition liberal Party (i.e. Democrats), they prove that they have no business being in what is SUPPOSED to be a conservative Republican Party.

There's your macro view. Back here at the FR ranch, why shouldn't we be calling for the banishing of liberal/leftist trolls and moles who have little if nothing in common with the principles upon which FR was founded?

So to answer your assertion that it isn't my 'place' to suggest who should or should not be banned, in fact it is not only my 'place' (and the place of any true conservative Freeper) to suggest that if necessary, it is our OBLIGATION.

In other words Howlin, all that liberals and RINOs here on FR need to prevail, is for true conservative Freepers to do nothing and say nothing.

As long as I'm a member in good standing, that isn't going to happen if I have anything to say about it.

[Howlin]

God almighty, do you think I am interested in one word you’re spewing?

Put a sock in it.

[mkjessup]

You must be interested, you keep responding. Apparently you’re unable to refute what I’m saying.

[Howlin]

Here’s a clue for you, dimbulb: nobody wants to.

[Kevmo]

Silverback posted to you that “I’m not expecting you to have anything remotely damaging” and it sure appears to be the case to me.

[Howlin]

You’re so smart; too smart to see that guy’s been banned.

[Kevmo]

Then they really don’t lose much when they get banned. And we lose disruptors here on Free Republic. Sounds like a win-win to me.

[Howlin]

Don’t send me Freepmail again or I’ll report you to the mods.

[garv]

You could try this.

American College of Pediatricians

ABSTRACT. The American College of Pediatricians concurs with the body of scientific evidence that human life begins at conception—fertilization. This definition has been expounded since prior to Roe v. Wade, but was not made available to the US Supreme Court in 1973. Scientific and medical discoveries over the past three decades have only verified and solidified this age-old truth. At the completion of the process of fertilization, the human creature emerges as a whole, genetically distinct, individuated zygotic living human organism, a member of the species homo sapiens, needing only the proper environment in order to grow and develop. The difference between the individual in its adult stage and in its zygotic stage is not one of personhood but of development. The Mission of the American College of Pediatricians is to enable all children to reach their optimal physical and emotional health and well-being from the moment of conception. This statement reviews some of the associated historical, ethical and philosophical issues.

Given any thought to your next screen name?

[mkjessup]

Uh oh, Kevmo - looks like -your- pant leg is being chewed on now.

Don’t kick the mutt, it’s just old and cranky. ;)

[Kevmo]

I am having trouble keeping up. The last 2 guys I was posting to on this thread got banned. I suppose I should check your login the next time I respond to you.

[narses]

Don’t send me Freepmail again or I’ll report you to the mods.

Wow, she told you! LOL, what a weird world view. A private email is an abusive missive. How odd, how very odd.

[mkjessup]

Don’t send me Freepmail again or I’ll report you to the mods.

Oh my, I am SO sorry.

You really, REALLY need to think about the decaf.

And all I said was that you could have the last word, guess you didn't want it eh?

Any way you like it, any way at all.

[mkjessup]

Don’t send me Freepmail again or I’ll report you to the mods.
Wow, she told you! LOL, what a weird world view. A private email is an abusive missive. How odd, how very odd.

Odd poster, odd behavior. A legend in her own mind. No skin off my nose. LOL