ALEC'S SCARY RANT TO DAUGHTER

NY Post ^ | 4-20-07 | Richard Johnson

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April 20, 2007 -- IN a disturbing voice-mail message recorded on April 11, Alec Baldwin called his 11-year-old daughter, Ireland, "a rude, thoughtless little pig" after she didn't answer her phone for a court-ordered conversation. Baldwin left a two-minute rant, shouting, "I made an a - - out of myself trying to make this call . . . You have insulted me for the last time. You don't have the brains or the decency as a human being." Insiders told Page Six the message was submitted as sealed evidence during Wednesday's custody hearing over Baldwin and his ex-wife Kim Basinger's rights to their daughter.....

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[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

The apple has certainly not fallen very far from the tree in this case.

Just curious...... what HS did you attend?

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

I’m sorry - I didn’t see this post before I asked the question in my post above.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

I think what we're all assuming here is that the adults SHOULD behave like adults. But we're dealing with mentally-disordered, proven left-wing liberal whackos in both cases - Baldwin, the anti-American, and Basinger, the PETA-shill - NEITHER parent is acting like an adult, much less as a parent.

As I said above, this kid doesn't stand a chance of growing up anywhere NEAR normal.

[avacado]

"I’m dying to see the Dummie Funnies spin on this one!"

Here ya go!

- "How dare he admonish his child? The nerve of an asshole like this to use strong language to teach his kid some manners. What in the hell has the world come to...we should not allow this kind of parenting to persist."

- "Eh. Who are WE to judge how he disciplines his own child? Unless said discipline crosses the line of abuse. Leaving a strongly-worded message does not even come close to that line."

- "How many kiddie stories have pigs as the protaganists? Might there be one with, say, three pigs? One, a silly, thoughtless little pig; one a worrisom, nervous pig; and one a thoughful, considerate pig? Might he not have been referring her back to the attitudes taught in the story, about the stupid, thoughtless pig, a family reference that doesn't translate outside their experiences?"

- "oh my god..... what am i going to tell my children? who gives a shit?"

- " As if it were the world's business.It's a divorce proceeding. What business is it of ours? This is such a voyeuristic society. The right wing feels Clinton's penis is their business. They also feel ownership over women's bodies (abortion rights). The general public seems to feel it's their right to decide who may marry whom. What candidates pay for their haircuts and how they look in swim trunks, how short they are, red dresses, blue dresses... like these things should be harped upon. Everyone feels a need to sniff evryone's dirty laundry. Where's the dignity in that. The news and dignity is dead. This is a tabloid society."

[soccermom]

What I meant by "if" is I don't know if Bassinger did it, or if the daughter gave it to a friend or if a publicist did it,or if someone with access to the court got a hold of it or what. We don't know that Bassinger did it, though I am inclined to think she did.

That said, he was not "set up". You can't "set someone up" to behave like that. No one can "set you up" to curse out your own daughter. He did it. He is an angry man. Bassinger chose to expose that, which I think was at the expense of her daughter. But that in no way absolves Baldwin. Just because Bassinger is a gleeful messenger, doesn't mean the message isn't real.

"I’d bet dollars to doughnuts this girls been having to hear her mother badmouth her father in far worse language to her face for years." Again, and the way the father chooses to counter that alleged "badmouthing" is by cursing out his daughter? Sorry, but that isn't the brightest way to undo what you presume the mother has done, is it? I think it is entirely possible Bassinger badmouths Baldwin, though I don't know how you can possibly make assumptions about the language she uses. But we know Baldwin has a history of uncontrolled rage, so it is not as if Bassinger has created this monster -- though she may be all too happy to expose it. I understand that divorced dads often get screwed, but that is no reason to excuse an abusive man. He needs anger management classes -- post haste!

[Petruchio]

Wow, he’s entering a Jim Belushi loo alike contest.

Yes. He does kinda look like a Jim Belushi's loo . . .

[soccermom]

ROFLOL!! I love the fairy tale spin! These guys will go to any lengths to excuse him.

[adopt4Him]

How can you inject your own opinion into a family situation you know nothing about? How do you know what his daughter’s behavior is? What do you know about the calls between the two of them? You DON’T know a thing about this situation — except that a father spoke to his daughter in a vile, demeaning, abusive way which should result in the permanent loss of his parental rights.

[daisyscarlett]

I want to know how this tape “leaked” into the media.

Kim and her attorney leaked it....I think she did her child no help in doing this...imagine the humiliation of all your friends knowing how daddy talks to you...

[red irish]

You are exactly right. These type don’t just yell over the phone and he has had a problem with his temper before. My dad was horrible to us in public and in PRIVATE. That is why I for one am glad this tape came to the public or do we have to wait until he SNAPS and hurts somebody.Maybe this guy is more than just angry ,he may have mental issues, but then we all agree the libs are nuts.My husband was telling me he saw all those women protesting the decision on PBA and how very angry they were over not being able to kill babies. Yea not just nuts,evil.

[the OlLine Rebel]

Thankfully I don’t know much about divorce.

But I do have an ex-sister-in-law who was stupid, petty, and unstable BEFORE the divorce ever began.

I’ve seen a bit of it. My brother never went off half-cocked, least of all his kids (who were actually brats - next sentence might indicate some why). Unlike his FIL, who DID call his young kids names like “fatso”, “homosexual”, and his wife who told her daughter at age 11 “you’ll just be a whore anyway”. All this before any divorce.

[HamiltonJay]

Soccermom,

When you are the person seeing your children turned against you by a bitter exspouse, are not allowed access, and have your authority and good name with your children undermined and attacked at every opportunity by an ex and go through an ugly drawn out bitter divorce, I’ll think you have a clue on this topic.

I’m sorry, but I really don’t think you do here... Yes, you can be set up to lose your temper at your own daughter or son, EVERYONE has their limits, EVERYONE whether it be Alec Baldwin or the King of England. And if you are inhuman enough that ou will keep your cool in such situtations as they drag on for YEARS... well you are naive.

I’ve seen some of the most gentle souls I’ve ever met snap from these sorts of things. I’m not condoning Alecs behavior, but to try to parlay his obvious frustrations with is clearly an ongoing FAMILY issue into some political hit piece, which is EXACTLY what Hannity and the Right wing talk radio folks want to do with it is disgusting and dispicable. No less so than NBC broadcasting that murderers tapes and photos.

There are pleanty of reasons to disagree with and attack Alec Baldwin for his politics... however to try to use this sort of thing as a reason to pile on is uncooth, undignified and shameful.

[red irish]

Doesn’t that sound like another crazy celebrity? Anyone,anyone?

[HamiltonJay]

Oil,

You are not saying anything I haven’t heard or seen. Its shameful, and its disgraceful... and while I am glad your brother kept his cool, that doesn’t mean that everyone everywhere always does. I’ve seen divorces drag on for years.... with parents using children as pawns, knowingly and willfully turning them against another spouse.. undermining their authority etc etc etc.

Because “getting back” at the ex is more important than anything else.. and yes, even the most gentle soul can snap during such things. Again I am not condoning Alec’s behavior, but this is a personal family matter, and it has no business in the press... and it certainly is uncooth and disgusting for people to try to pile on on this against Alec for political reasons, which is exactly what is going on here.

This got leaked to the press on purpose, and its being used by some people who don’t politically agree with Alec (which I personally don’t) to pile on. I think this is shameful and disgraceful.. no different than NBC broadcasting the killers manefesto.

I’ve seen stuff so so so much more over the top than this in divorce situations, this one isn’t even on the radar. Is it right? no.. but please, trying to parlay this into attacks for politics, which is what this is about by a lot of folks is stupid and petty and no better than Alec’s behavior.

[the OlLine Rebel]

I hold my opinion of this incident regardless of his politics. Period.

[A. Patriot]

Has everyone noticed that in his ranting and raving, it’s all about him? She has “humiliated” him, etc.

I am not a psychiatrist, (I do play one here on FreeRepublic, though), but I think he has a personality disorder. (like my x-wife). Much of his ranting sounds very familiar to me.

See my previous post.

(Also Google “borderline personality disorder”)

[red irish]

Actually it does. Maybe this is another person who is about to snap and hurt someone he loves. And yes it happens because my dad was one of them and he did hurt those he was suppose to love. I hope he gets real help and not celebrity help.

[daku]

balwins’ reaction is waaay over the top, one would think he is calling all the way from France

[HamiltonJay]

Tell you what Oil...

If Sean Hannity doesn’t spend at least 1/2 an hour or more on this on his show today, I’ll conceed I’m wrong about what and how this is going to be used....

However I know damned well it’ll be used as nothing more than a pile on by political opponents, which is disgusting seeing as how global condemnaton of NBC was being done by these same folks less than 24 hours ago....

Sorry, let the courts deal with this, which is why they are there, not drag dirty laundry into the streets just to have another reason to attack.

[soccermom]

Again, you are not grasping the point. I doesn't matter how horrible you presume Bassinger to be. (And, frankly, we don't really know if she has done anything to turn her daughter against her father.) Even if she has, that is no reason to curse out the child. If this were an issue of him yelling at Bassinger, I could see your point. But it isn't. He is cursing out his own child -- the one you presume has been "poisoned" against her father. Sorry, there is NO excuse for that -- unless Baldwin is mentally ill.

You want to frame this in the context of a divorce battle, because you have your own bitter issues. But this isn't about the divorce. If this were the only instance of Baldwin's rage, you could blame it on the divorce. But it isn't. He has a history of rage that predates the divorce. I'm willing to bet that in the chicken-and-egg debate, the rage led to the divorce -- not the other way around.

I don't think, for the child's sake, the clip should have been released. But I think Baldwin's rage is, indeed, fair game for public consumption. When liberal Hollywood types put themselves up as more caring, more tolerant, and more enlightened than the rest of us, it is entirely appropriate for us to discuss his character.