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Anti-Gun Mayors Push for Gun Trace Information
Cybercast News Service ^ | 04/19/07 | Susan Jones

Posted on 04/19/2007 11:20:50 AM PDT by Froufrou

Mayors Against Illegal Guns -- a group organized last year by the mayors of New York and Boston -- said it plans to run television ads, starting with the Sunday morning political shows, seeking repeal of the "Tiahrt Amendment."

In the advertisement, Chaska, Minn., Police Chief Scott Knight describes how the Tiahrt Amendment "prevents him from being able to effectively address gun crime," a new release said.

The amendment (actually, a series of riders to appropriations bills funding the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) is named after its sponsor, Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.). The measure restricts cities' access to gun trace data collected by the BATFE.

Second Amendment supporters say the amendment prevents anti-gun groups from using gun trace data in "frivilous" civil lawsuits against the firearms industry.

But the mayors argue that gun-trace data is an essential crime-fighting tool.

"Our efforts have nothing to do with the Second Amendment or the rights of lawful gun owners," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said in a press release on Wednesday.

"This is about enforcing the law and keeping guns out of the hands of criminals. We can only do that if we have the best tools to combat illegal gun trafficking, and the most important of those is the gun trace data that the Tiahrt Amendment restricts."

Newark Mayor Cory Booker argued that the Tiahrt Amendment insulates illegal gun retailers.

"We are facing a crisis of illegal guns in our communities where more than 30,000 Americans lose their lives to gun violence every year," Booker said. "We have an obligation to stem the flow of illegal weapons to our cities, and that starts with the ability of law enforcement to trace these illegal weapons to their source.

Mayors Against Illegal Guns believes there is growing support in Congress for repealing the Tiahrt Amendment.

Toward that end, Rep. Steve Rothman (D-N.J.) introduced a bill repealing the Tiahrt Amendment during the last Congress and he is expected to re-introduce the bill next week, the mayors' group said.

A group of U.S. senators last week signed a letter supporting repeal.

Sensitive information

But the National Rifle Association says there are good reasons for keeping gun trace information confidential.

First of all, the NRA argues, the BATFE gun-trace system was not designed to collect statistics. BATFE compiles such records only when law enforcement agencies request that a gun be traced.

The NRA also noted that traced guns are not always "crime" guns.

Moreover, the Fiscal Year 2007 version of the Tiahrt amendment ensures that trace data is available to federal, state, and local agencies "in connection with and for use in a bona fide criminal investigation or prosecution," the NRA said on its website.

The NRA also noted that BATFE has fought for years in the federal courts to keep the databases confidential, because they contain information (such as names of gun buyers) that could jeopardize ongoing investigations as well as law enforcement officers' lives.

Rather than repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, strengthen it and make it permanent, the NRA says.

The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) also argues that the Tiahrt Amendment does not block "legitimate access" to federal gun trace data. Rather, it prevents "fishing expedition access" to the information.

"[Mayor] Bloomberg''s sole interest in broadening access to that data is so that he and other anti-gun politicians can use it to mount more bogus gun shop stings and bully firearms retailers with harassment lawsuits," said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb.

"The federal statute was adopted specifically to protect the privacy of American gun owners from politicians like Bloomberg, and to prevent the kind of grandstanding he launched last year with his vigilante operation against gun shops in five states."

"This isn''t about stopping gun crimes, it''s about invading the privacy of law-abiding citizens," Gottlieb stated.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: mayormcpus; mayorsarelikepus; needbactine; neosporinwouldhelp; pus; pusmayor

1 posted on 04/19/2007 11:20:54 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
Anti-Gun Mayors Pus For Gun Trace Information

Close: Anti-Gun Mayors ARE Pus

2 posted on 04/19/2007 11:22:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: Froufrou
Had to read the article to understand that the title should read: Anti-Gun Mayors Push For Gun Trace Information
3 posted on 04/19/2007 11:23:04 AM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: Lazamataz

Anti-gun politicians are alway pussin’ about sumthin’...


4 posted on 04/19/2007 11:23:07 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: Lazamataz

This thread should ooze with humor.


5 posted on 04/19/2007 11:23:17 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: dighton; martin_fierro; jdm; Tijeras_Slim

Quick, get some Bactine on that headline.


6 posted on 04/19/2007 11:24:13 AM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Froufrou
Police Chief Scott Knight describes how the Tiahrt Amendment "prevents him from being able to effectively address gun crime,"

Maybe he should concentrate on locking up the people who use guns in crime...
7 posted on 04/19/2007 11:24:40 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40

Chaska, that hotbed of crime here, in Minnesota.


8 posted on 04/19/2007 11:25:33 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: Lazamataz; Enterprise; Admin Moderator

Freudian slip?

Vanna, can I get an “h?”


9 posted on 04/19/2007 11:26:41 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
We can only do that if we have the best tools

Ah, yes. TOOLS.

How about we make plaster casts of the wheels on our car? After all, it's a toooool.

Better yet, let's just call the police before we leave our homes. Tell them where we're going and when we'll be back.

After all, it's A TOOL!!

10 posted on 04/19/2007 11:26:56 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Froufrou

Pus?...........I’m green with envy...........


11 posted on 04/19/2007 11:27:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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"We have an obligation to stem the flow of illegal weapons to our cities, and that starts with the ability of law enforcement to trace these illegal weapons to their source."

Well Booker I guess we're heading for the iron mines and the steel mills. Because murderers don't kill people, iron ore does.

12 posted on 04/19/2007 11:27:32 AM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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To: Froufrou

One afternoon at the range and you’re a true believer! YEE HAA!


13 posted on 04/19/2007 11:29:59 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Red Badger; bikerMD

At least I didn’t say life is good and leave off the ‘d!’


14 posted on 04/19/2007 11:30:00 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
There are NO illegal guns for sale in this country. The effort to repeal the Tiahrt Amendment is not motivated by a concern to help the work of the police but to harrass law-abiding gun dealers and gun owners. That's what's its all about.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

15 posted on 04/19/2007 11:30:02 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Lazamataz
Close: Anti-Gun Mayors ARE Pus

Bunch of pus-ies.

16 posted on 04/19/2007 11:30:24 AM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: Froufrou

Methinks the moderators need to put a bandage on the title...


17 posted on 04/19/2007 11:30:39 AM PDT by Jonah Hex ("How'd you get that scar, mister?" "Nicked myself shaving.")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Yep! And Hannity’s radio show didn’t hurt. He had a guest on who knew his history and told how a teacher saved two lives by sprinting 1000+ yds. to retrieve his pistol from his car. He parked according to the law, so far away from the school.


18 posted on 04/19/2007 11:37:06 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
A lot of good that would have done in VT! Trace the guns used in the mass murder to the hands of the dead bastard that did the killing! Just a bunch more gun control nuts trying to out control each other!
19 posted on 04/19/2007 11:52:32 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (82 Airborne 1/508th BN "fury from the sky")
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To: Lazamataz

SUE mayors for violation of our Constitutional Rights!

LLS


20 posted on 04/19/2007 12:09:43 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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